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Topic: Melissa has turned "Jeffran College" into a "Fraud" |
Gary Arnold
From: Panhandle of Florida, USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2019 8:52 pm
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I have had two claims with paypal and been turned down because Melissa says they have a tracking no that says it was delivered but I never got my picks or my money back then dummy me I made another order when she had 50% of the "Wood Shed" items. I ordered 3 of them and Jeff's 30 intro at the same time and only received Jeff's Intros book. I have the receipts but what good does that do ???????????? I have sent 12 emails and called the same amount of times. No calls returned and no replys by email, I have sent them my name, address, my cell # and my email address and what the problem is on there web page. I know I'm not the only forum member that has been ripped off. I know it's not a lot of money but it's the principle of the thing. What I want to know is why is she able to advertise on the forum and keep on ripping us off. I knew Jeff & Fran personally and there is no way they would have pulled this on the "PSG" family. We should all file a claim and all that money we have all lost should say something. This is stealing, when you sale something to a person, take there money and just forget about it is mail fraud and that is a federal charge if you advertise on the internet. Bob why is she steel able to post on this forum ???????????? |
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autry andress
From: Plano, Tx.
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Posted 15 Sep 2019 4:04 am Jeff fran college
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Contact the us Postal service mail fraud division
1 877 876 2455 & get them Involved. |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 15 Sep 2019 8:24 am
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Gary Arnold wrote: |
Bob why is she steel able to post on this forum ???????????? |
FYI, her membership has been deactivated. Her last login was 2 Feb 2018.
Also, Jeffran is no longer listed on my Steel Guitar Links page. _________________ -𝕓𝕆𝕓- (admin) - Robert P. Lee - Recordings - Breathe - D6th - Video |
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Gary Watkins
From: Bristol, VA
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Posted 15 Sep 2019 9:06 am
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Gary and anyone else taken advantage of by her,
Do not give up on your claim! You can appeal the decision from PAYPAL, most people have. Just try to speak to a live person about it at PAYPAL. I did, and it worked out for me, as well as a few others that kept pushing this issue. _________________ If you succeed in cheating someone, don't think that the person is a fool. It's just that the person trusted you far more than you deserved. |
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Gary Arnold
From: Panhandle of Florida, USA
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Posted 15 Sep 2019 10:00 am
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Thanks Gary,
I haven't give up yet. I just don't want other people to get treated as I have been treated. |
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Gary Arnold
From: Panhandle of Florida, USA
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Posted 15 Sep 2019 10:01 am
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And FYI b0b thanks for letting me know. |
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Travis Wilson
From: Johnson City, TX
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Posted 15 Sep 2019 10:25 am
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Class Action Lawsuit? |
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Gary Watkins
From: Bristol, VA
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Posted 15 Sep 2019 10:49 am
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Looks like the web page is shut down on her site. _________________ If you succeed in cheating someone, don't think that the person is a fool. It's just that the person trusted you far more than you deserved. |
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Jim Cohen
From: Philadelphia, PA
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Lynn Fargo
From: Fort Edward, NY
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Posted 16 Sep 2019 9:47 am
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Yes, Jim. And it looks like the only way to order is to call. I wonder if that's so you can't use PayPal and be covered by their protection?????
I just don't trust her anymore. _________________ Sho-Bud Pro II Custom, GFI Ultra SD-10, Fender Pro Amp, Fender Mustang II Amp, Morrell 8-string lap, Epiphone 6-string lap, Galveston reso, etc. |
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Gary Watkins
From: Bristol, VA
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Posted 16 Sep 2019 10:51 am
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Lynn Fargo wrote: |
Yes, Jim. And it looks like the only way to order is to call. I wonder if that's so you can't use PayPal and be covered by their protection?????
I just don't trust her anymore. |
I think this is an old link when FRAN was running it. Besides, Melissa won't answer the phone if anyone was stupid enough, like me, to place an order with her. _________________ If you succeed in cheating someone, don't think that the person is a fool. It's just that the person trusted you far more than you deserved. |
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Lynn Fargo
From: Fort Edward, NY
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Posted 16 Sep 2019 11:13 am
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Yep, I think you’re right, Gary. I thought about that after I posted it, that she has a habit of not answering the phone.
Hopefully she’s shutting down and transferring everything over to someone who can actually run the business. Ok, so I’m a bit of an optimist at times. _________________ Sho-Bud Pro II Custom, GFI Ultra SD-10, Fender Pro Amp, Fender Mustang II Amp, Morrell 8-string lap, Epiphone 6-string lap, Galveston reso, etc. |
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Jim Cohen
From: Philadelphia, PA
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Gary Spaeth
From: Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 27 Sep 2019 4:15 am
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you could order c.o.d. but knowing her, you might get a package filled with old newspapers. |
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Steven Cherson
From: Austin, TX.
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Posted 27 Sep 2019 5:53 pm
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It's unfortunate what Jeffran has turned into. I for one had the opportunity to spend six years, twice a year at Jeff's place in Watertown, and 10 years at Jeff's seminars at Scotty's.
When Mellisa took over the business, it was a sigh of relieve what Jeff and Fran started would continue, unfortunately that hasn't happened. I know a lot of people trusted in Jeffran and have been burned and are angry they lost money and will probably never see anything they ordered or ever get a refund.
It upsets me greatly, as I was fortunate to call Jeff and Fran my friends, as so many others were too.
For those that have order instructional courses that never received them or are missing pages I have most of everything in print and I will be happy to send you what you are missing.
Do why you want, but lets move on, and remember there are many of us that would love to see the Jeffran College material live on!
Steve |
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john buffington
From: Owasso OK - USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2019 10:35 am
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I am thankful the Lord allowed me to get a refund from Jeffran. I did use PayPal for my intended purchase, and of course no product! She sent me a tracking number BUT according to the USPS a label was generated . . . . but was never affixed to a package. PayPal gave her 10 days to respond to my complaint, they stated they're was never a response, what a surprise! I was notified my case was closed in my favor, so don't give up. I am sure PayPal has a high volume of such cases, so sad for the history and legacy of Jeff.
Last edited by john buffington on 9 Oct 2019 5:39 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Robert Herr
From: Willow Street,Pa
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Posted 9 Oct 2019 1:50 pm Picks
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I have waited 2 years for picks |
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Jim Reynolds
From: Franklin, Pa 16323
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Posted 17 Oct 2019 6:05 pm
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The one real sad part is. Rick Kornacker is Jeff and Frans son-in-law, and could have done something with this. _________________ Zum U-12, Carter SDU-12, Zum Encore, Emmons S-10, Emmons D-10, Nashville 400, Two Peavey Nashville 112, Boss Katana 100, Ibanez DD700, Almost every Lesson Jeff Newman sold. Washburn Special Edition Guitar, Can never have enough, even at 80. 1963 Original Hofner Bass bought in Germany 1963, and a 1973 Framus Bass also bought in Germany 1974. |
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Darrell Criswell
From: Maryland, USA
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Posted 19 Oct 2019 9:36 am
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Just curious, is there nobody on the forum that knows Melissa or other relatives and has tried to talk with them about this?
His material really needs to be turned over to someone to reproduce and merchandise. |
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Scott Denniston
From: Hahns Peak, Colorado, USA
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Posted 22 Oct 2019 11:13 am
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His material really needs to be turned over to someone to reproduce and merchandise. |
Yes most definitely. Many of his video courses are really treasures that should not be lost in time and out of print. I think some of the best and most organized and effective teaching material ever done for pedal steel. And one never had to sell their house to afford them. |
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John Bumbarger
From: Houtzdale, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 15 Nov 2019 3:38 pm
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Does anyone Melissa 's last name ? I'm filing a report to the attorney general's office in Tennessee |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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John McClung
From: Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 15 Nov 2019 4:36 pm
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Sure sorry to see what appears to be rampant fraud for so many here.
I'm a very small dealer, just Right Hand Alpha for my students, and all my orders from Melissa have gone smoothly, she even donated about 12 copies of Jeff Newman's last CD to Steel Resolve to share with our students.
I thought for the longest time she was probably overwhelmed with the details of running a mail order business, just didn't really have the skillset to take this on.
I'm sure there's a backstory and explanation, love to hear what it could be.
Bewildering and sad. _________________ E9 INSTRUCTION
▪️ If you want to have an ongoing discussion, please email me, don't use the Forum messaging which I detest! steelguitarlessons@earthlink.net |
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John Bumbarger
From: Houtzdale, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 15 Nov 2019 6:22 pm
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Thanks. I let everyone know how it turns out. Already have complaint filed with PAYPAL |
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John Bumbarger
From: Houtzdale, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 23 Nov 2019 8:43 am
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I contacted Melissa by email and told her I was filing a complaint with the Tennessee Attorney General's office. I received a return email which was as I perceived nasty to me for even suggesting that I would contact the Attorney General. She has taken me for the picks, promised refund-none, course I ordered, received nothing and the from the posts on the forum a lot of other people did not receive their merchandise.About a year ago I was able to talk to her and I told her she needed to communicate with her customers if she was having problems. No response from her. The complaint went out Thursday 11-21-19. I'll see what happens. It's not the $69 but the lack of communication |
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