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Topic: Jackson SlideKing SS Stand Up PSG |
Tony Oresteen
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Georgia, USA
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Fred Treece
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California, USA
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Posted 7 Apr 2022 9:37 am |
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| Forget about knee levers. |
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Ken Pippus
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Langford, BC, Canada
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Posted 7 Apr 2022 9:47 am
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| Or double-footing. |
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Andrew Goulet
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Posted 7 Apr 2022 10:38 am
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I found this video of Zane King playing a stand up Jackson: https://youtu.be/lU9NFCZySbw
I extended the rods and legs of a Fender and played standing up for a while years ago. It was fun and interesting in some ways. But I had to choose between guitar pedals or volume pedal, and it was awkward to switch between them while playing. It was also really hard on my back and right leg, since my weight was distributed so unevenly.
But I can see how one could learn to overcome all that or that it would be a good second option for a lead guitar player.
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Dave Hopping
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Aurora, Colorado
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Posted 7 Apr 2022 11:19 am
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I DO like the visuals of standing up, but losing both the knee levers and the volume pedal is a no-no.
There's probably a reason for most stand-up steels being non-pedal and I'd suspect it's the same reason that flying an airplane is done sitting down.  |
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Chris Templeton
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Posted 8 Apr 2022 10:02 am
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I told Robert the idea about a stand-up pedal steel in 2002, when we were on his tour bus.
The idea behind it was to make a steel player more visually attractive on stage.
I bagged the idea because of the volume pedal problem.
I had a three legged stand up stand for my frying pan that I used for hula shows. Better for audience visuals.
Hawaiian player, Barney Isaacs played standing up and didn't use a volume pedal with his Magnatone
When Robert played here in Burlington a few years ago, I went to soundcheck to say "hi" to Robert and spied the stand-up steel on the back of the stage. I pointed to it and said to Robert, "That's my steel".
I'm glad he had it made.
He has such great bar hand, he probably doesn't use the pedals much.
Could be the future of pedal steel, as he says halfway through:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE1sBhHN_Ok
Some hotel in Newark, NJ 2001
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Tony Oresteen
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Georgia, USA
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Posted 8 Apr 2022 10:27 am
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Thanks all. I under stand the issue with the vol pedal. I use a vol pedal when I play with our church group but I use my hands to change the chords on my 6 string guitar, not my feet  .
I have a 1936 May Bell Hawaiian acoustic guitar that I use on a Deluxe 34 stand but it has no pedals. I do not use a vol pedal with it. In 2007 I had a K&K bridge pickup installed and I run it to a direct box then straight to the board. We set the sound level and leave it. Before I got the stand I used play it sitting down but the stand is far better.
I agree that the visuals are better standing up.
Chris, that's a great story about Robert!
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Newnan, GA
Too many guitars, not enough time to play
'72 Sho-Bud 6139, '71 Marlen 210
'78 Fender Stringmaster Quad black
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Chris Templeton
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The Green Mountain State
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Posted 8 Apr 2022 11:12 am
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Yes, a lot of Hawaiian players don't/didn't use a volume pedals.
I wasn't a featured player on the hula shows, so not using a volume pedal wasn't an issue for me.
A technique I like to use is a really fast vibrato with the pedal, and that effect can't be done with the volume nob.
The description I think of for that sound is, "watery".
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"The Tapper" : https://christophertempleton.bandcamp.com/album/the-tapper
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Bobby D. Jones
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West Virginia, USA
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Posted 8 Apr 2022 7:51 pm
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Don Warden, (Porter Wagoner's steel player) played a Sho-Bud serial No. 1 (ONE). He played the guitar standing up and it only had 2 pedals. If you go to You-Tube Porter Wagoner, Green Green Grass of Home Mr. Warden is playing it.
Being No. 1 it may have been before Mr. Emmons split to A & B pedal.
The thing that can throw you on some of Porter Wagoner's early songs you have to listen close. Is the lick Don Warden on steel guitar, Or Buck Trent's banjo, It had a pickup and key head tuners he bent the strings with it, too. On some cuts sounds like Mr. Trent's banjo has some delay and reverb in the sound chain. |
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Paul Strojan
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California, USA
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Posted 9 Apr 2022 7:14 pm
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| Junior Brown has his pedal guitsteel setup with 4 pedals, E to F raise, A pedal, B pedal and E Lowers. I really like the minimalism that comes with only having the limited pedals to work with. |
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