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Karlis Abolins


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Post  Posted 7 Mar 2022 7:17 am    
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I admit it. I am a nitpicker (perfectionist). The tone difference between an open string and a string that is fretted (with a bar) annoys me. But yesterday I had an eye-opening moment. I put my Charlie's capo on my guitar and suddenly the difference disappeared. I rarely use the capo and frankly don't remember why I bought it (probably GAS). The Charlie's capo is a great device. I just wish that I had built my guitar with the nut offset from the zero fret like on the Duesenberg lap steels. When I first saw the Duesenberg capodaster, I thought it was just a gimmick. I now realize that it is sheer genius.

Now, I have to relearn the fret board relative positions for D# instead of D. I may have to build a new guitar with an integral capo and nut offset from zero.

Karlis
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Allan Revich


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Victoria, BC
Post  Posted 7 Mar 2022 10:21 am     Re: open vs fretted - I'm probably the only one
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Karlis Abolins wrote:
I admit it. I am a nitpicker (perfectionist). The tone difference between an open string and a string that is fretted (with a bar) annoys me. But yesterday I had an eye-opening moment. I put my Charlie's capo on my guitar and suddenly the difference disappeared. I rarely use the capo and frankly don't remember why I bought it (probably GAS). The Charlie's capo is a great device. I just wish that I had built my guitar with the nut offset from the zero fret like on the Duesenberg lap steels. When I first saw the Duesenberg capodaster, I thought it was just a gimmick. I now realize that it is sheer genius.

Now, I have to relearn the fret board relative positions for D# instead of D. I may have to build a new guitar with an integral capo and nut offset from zero.

Karlis


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Brooks Montgomery


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Idaho, USA
Post  Posted 7 Mar 2022 10:52 am    
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Karlis, in my opinion, the Charlie Capo works way better than the “zero nut”/sliding capo on the Duesenburgs. I have both. There are inherent problems with the Duesy system.
I wish mine had a traditional nut.

The Charlie Capo is a great piece of gear.

By-the-way, for a quick capo on electric lap steel, I love the Walworth.
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Ian Rae


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Post  Posted 7 Mar 2022 3:21 pm    
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On any stringed instrument the open strings have a distinctive sound - it's part of the tonal range.

How would you like to listen to country fiddle where the open strings have been doctored to sound like stopped ones?

Just my two cents - wait - make that a whole dime.
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