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Brian Spratt


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Oklahoma, USA
Post  Posted 28 Feb 2022 12:41 pm    
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I have an early 80's Emmons push-pull and the case it comes with is a LeGrande(??... I think) case that has been hacked on just a bit on the inside. The exterior is in really great shape and it has nice smooth rollers. The fit of my steel in the case is close enough for short, easy rides, but I wouldn't trust it for more than that without jamming and packing extra fluff into the case.

I am reasonably handy with tools, so I think if I just knew what I needed to do to this thing, I could probably modify the guts into a very adequate case. My problem that I need help with is getting a good, solid idea of exactly what kind of dimensions and supporting bits and pieces are the best for my SD-10. Sure I could take a pretty good educated guess and hope I didn't overlook something... but I'm hoping someone here has some specific advice, pictures, measurements, etc. of what a good-fitting SD-10 Emmons case interior should look like. Anyone have such help to offer?

One problem in particular is that the bulk of the weight ends up falling on just about 1/2" or less of the body on the front and back side. That's a lot of load bearing on a small section of the pad, and its created some permanent impressions in the pad. You can also see in the pictures it doesn't lay perfectly flat and has too much gap around it, generally.







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Pat Moore


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Virginia USA
Post  Posted 28 Feb 2022 6:21 pm    
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Hi Brian,
I had to do this to a case I had. It had no support blocks at all in it.
You need to carefully measure and put support blocks on the ends where the changer and fingers go. That'll give you solid support for the guitar.
I hope that helps. Mines works fine now.
Pat
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Brian Spratt


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Oklahoma, USA
Post  Posted 1 Mar 2022 6:29 am    
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I'm looking for pictures of cases. I found this one. Can anyone tell me exactly what piece of the guitar rests on the circled part? Is it the metal "wrap" that's right behind the changer? Or is it right on the actual changer?


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Chris Lucker

 

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Post  Posted 1 Mar 2022 7:35 am    
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Those blocks are to support behind the fingers of your cut tail changers. If the fingers rested on those blocks you would wear string grooves in your fingers.
Early Emmons cases had no blocks such as those because the guitars were meant to go into the case strings-up. The bottom of the case had no padding, but the inside of the lid did. The little cutouts on the endplates of an Emmons are actually finger holds to help lift the strings-up guitar out of the case.
I wonder who was the first steel manufacturer to design his guitar to go into the case strings down? Blanton?
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Pat Moore


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Virginia USA
Post  Posted 1 Mar 2022 7:50 am    
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Definitely NOT on the changer itself. On the endplate tops. Some cases put the support blocks in between the keys on the keyhead. Keep in mind the 2 necks are at different heights, so the support blocks need to also be different heights.
Looking at your pix, the side supports might not be wide enough. If so, maybe that case came from a different guitar. I'm not a pro builder, but these are issues what I had to deal with.
Another possibility is the body block that is in there making the guitar lower might just need to be added a little height to, or replaced with a slightly taller one that's has the height difference added to it thats the difference between the necks. I would use a new heightened block for stability. That could be simpler and quicker. Also, get some nice heavy felt to cover the blocks to keep from scratching the guitar when putting it in the case!
There are some fine case builders on here who can help you as well.
I hope this helps you some. Pat

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Chris Lucker

 

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Los Angeles, California USA
Post  Posted 1 Mar 2022 8:02 am    
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The felt Pat is referring to is "Piano Felt" and may be found in comprehensive fabric stores -- at least in Los Angeles. I used to buy the felt in 1" and 3/4" thicknesses to Pliobond to wader boots for wading in slippery rivers.
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Brian Spratt


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Post  Posted 1 Mar 2022 9:05 am    
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Thank you Chris and Pat. That's quite helpful.
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