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Topic: A decent, cheap steel? |
Lloyd Graves
From: New York, USA
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Posted 23 Jan 2022 7:20 pm
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I am flying to Florida in April and am resistant to taking my metal dobro or my (borrowed) Rickenbacker panda.
Are there any inexpensive, decent-to-practice-on, 6 string lap steels out there? I don't care about pickups, because it won't be amplified at all. Just something to practice on while traveling. By cheap, I mean under $50 USD.
Thanks.
Edit: as long as I'm asking questions, the case for the Rick panda that I am borrowing is the original, but shot to hell. What do you all recommend for replacements cases? Or, alternately, is the anyone that repairs/reinforces the old cases? |
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Allan Revich
From: Victoria, BC
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Posted 23 Jan 2022 7:40 pm
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There is this.
Anything else will require a time machine.
There’s this. |
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Karl Paulsen
From: Chicago
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Posted 23 Jan 2022 8:17 pm
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Maybe hit up the resale shop and buy whatever electric guitar the have and slap a Grover nut riser on it. I don't know about near you, but here in Chicago there's a few starter electrics on Craigslist for 50 bucks or less.
I found a First Act discovery with built in amp for 10 bucks at Goodwill. It's not "good" but I suppose it would qualify as "decent to practice on". My daughter likes it, it had a small body and there's a certain charm to the decidedly lo-fi sounds of the crappy onboard amp and speaker. I think there's one on eBay in your price range.
Your best bet though would probably be to drop $100 on a Rogue Lap steel. Not amazing, but at least it's a functional steel that could be a good tinker/upgrade platform in the future and it comes with legs and a pretty good case. _________________ Nickel and Steel. Sad Songs and Steel Guitar.
https://www.facebook.com/NickelandSteel
Chicago Valley Railroad. Trainspotting and Bargain Hunting...
https://chicagovalleyrailroad.blogspot.com/ |
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Brian Evans
From: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 24 Jan 2022 8:53 am
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Dont overlook the ultimate cheap lap steel. A set of tuners for $20, a piece of 3/4" plywood, a zerox of a fretboard, and two pieces of 1/2" angle aluminium 4" long. A little jig-saw work (or get the store to saw it to size for you), a few holes drilled, a few screws screwed and up and running for well under $50. I'd do it! |
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Michael Butler
From: California, USA
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Posted 24 Jan 2022 10:27 am
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musician's friend has a stupid deal of the day with a cheap lap steel now and then.
play music! _________________ please see my Snakeskin's Virtual Music Museum below.
http://muscmp.wordpress.com/ |
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Glenn Wilde
From: California, USA
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Daniel McKee
From: Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 24 Jan 2022 4:28 pm
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If you don’t mind doing some work the CB Gitty kit is actually kinda cool. It’s designed for a 23 inch scale. The rogue is not bad but it’s a really short scale. George boards sells a scale upgrade kit which allows you to make your rogue a more standard 22.5.
If you ever decide to drop a couple hundred more a Melbert is a fantastic choice. |
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D Schubert
From: Columbia, MO, USA
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Posted 24 Jan 2022 4:32 pm
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If you have a six-string anything, just add the old-fashioned nut extender. |
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Karl Paulsen
From: Chicago
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Karl Paulsen
From: Chicago
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Posted 24 Jan 2022 4:43 pm
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Daniel McKee wrote: |
If you don’t mind doing some work the CB Gitty kit is actually kinda cool. It’s designed for a 23 inch scale. The rogue is not bad but it’s a really short scale. George boards sells a scale upgrade kit which allows you to make your rogue a more standard 22.5.
If you ever decide to drop a couple hundred more a Melbert is a fantastic choice. |
Yes!
Most times at home the PSG gets my time but a Melbert is my travel instrument so I don't miss any practice days. Took it to DC for a week and I think it passed as my "personal item" for carry on American.
With the Melbert I feel like there's zero loss of tone (different but not worse) or playability compared to my Encore. I stink at lap steel but the Melbert is a joy to play. _________________ Nickel and Steel. Sad Songs and Steel Guitar.
https://www.facebook.com/NickelandSteel
Chicago Valley Railroad. Trainspotting and Bargain Hunting...
https://chicagovalleyrailroad.blogspot.com/ |
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Lloyd Graves
From: New York, USA
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Posted 24 Jan 2022 5:13 pm
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Thanks for all the great suggestions.
I was definitely hoping that whatever I get would go as a carry on. I'd be afraid of breaking the neck on one of those First Acts, but maybe...
But it seems a rogue (or an SX) are the best option for "as is." I've checked Goodwill and ebay. I hadn't thought of FB. Good idea. And maybe I'll throw up something in the wanted section here, too.
Any more ideas? I've still got time to plan. |
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Nic Neufeld
From: Kansas City, Missouri
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Posted 24 Jan 2022 7:25 pm
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I know cost is an important thing, but depending on your preference and if you've got experience with a current style PSG...I might go for something with longer scale (SX) over the shorter scale Rogue. You could for sure get an extension nut/fretboard for the Rogue, via Georgeboards, but the default 20" scale is pretty drastically short and spending the money to convert it to 22" will bring it up in cost relatively.
That said, under $50 is an aggressive goal. If that goal is fixed, you might be best finding a castaway standard guitar and just affix an extension bridge. Gonna be hard finding a good steel under that price point, even used, but you might find an unloved fretted guitar... _________________ Waikīkī, at night when the shadows are falling
I hear the rolling surf calling
Calling and calling to me |
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Gene Tani
From: Pac NW
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Posted 24 Jan 2022 7:59 pm
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I think Nick has right idea if you're ok with 25" scale, an unloved fretted Squire, pawnshops sometimes mark the good ones that shd be $200 used down to around $75 cause they don't know better _________________ - keyless Sonny Jenkins laps stay in tune forever!; Carter PSG
- The secret sauce: polyester sweatpants to buff your picks, cheapo Presonus channel strip for preamp/EQ/compress/limiter, Diet Mountain Dew |
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Tommy Martin Young
From: Sacramento-California, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2022 5:30 pm
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Kinda hard to beat the price on one of these.
Great video btw on the pursuit of tone...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n02tImce3AE _________________ The One & Lonely Tommy Young
"Now is the time for drinking;
now the time to beat the earth with unfettered foot."
-Quintus Horatius Flaccus (65-8 B.C.) |
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Lloyd Graves
From: New York, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2022 7:19 pm
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Not sure how portable that air guitar is, and his pot is already alive budget. But it is an interesting experiment and am argument against spending too, too much on an electric.
For what it's worth, it looks like I found a local guy with a rogue to sell. And in my price range! Maybe I'll splurge and get the George Boards conversion kit. But I'm not counting on it until the guitar is in my hands.
Thanks again for all the input. |
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John Drury
From: Gallatin, Tn USA
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Posted 4 Feb 2022 3:11 pm Re: A decent, cheap steel?
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Lloyd Graves wrote: |
I am flying to Florida in April and am resistant to taking my metal dobro or my (borrowed) Rickenbacker panda.
Are there any inexpensive, decent-to-practice-on, 6 string lap steels out there? I don't care about pickups, because it won't be amplified at all. Just something to practice on while traveling. By cheap, I mean under $50 USD.
Thanks.
Edit: as long as I'm asking questions, the case for the Rick panda that I am borrowing is the original, but shot to hell. What do you all recommend for replacements cases? Or, alternately, is the anyone that repairs/reinforces the old cases? |
Fifty bucks? I've been accused of being tighter than a bulls @$$ in fly time, but I don't think I could pull that one off!
I did however put this together using parts that have laid around my shop forever. It is made from scrap 2 x 4 and stuff just laying around from scrapped out guitars over the years. I had to lay out a few bucks for the pickup,and a bridge plus a couple of rattle cans of paint. About 75 bucks total.
Modeled it after the Monkey Wards Rocket Six from the 50's.
_________________ John Drury
NTSGA #3
"Practice cures most tone issues" ~ John Suhr |
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Mike McBride
From: Indiana
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Posted 4 Feb 2022 3:35 pm
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Buy a $10 nut raise device before you fly and a $40 acoustic guitar after you arrive.
Bingo! |
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Mike McBride
From: Indiana
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Posted 5 Feb 2022 3:25 am
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Better yet buy a $100 used lap steel and sell for $100 when you get home. |
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Lloyd Graves
From: New York, USA
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Posted 5 Feb 2022 9:20 am Re: A decent, cheap steel?
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John Drury wrote: |
Fifty bucks? I've been accused of being tighter than a bulls @$$ in fly time, but I don't think I could pull that one off! |
Actually, looking at Facebook Marketplace, the are a fair number of Rogues for sale. I think that patience will be the key. The rogue I was going to buy didn't work out unfortunately - someone got to his door a day before me (darned familial obligations!) but I just keep checking every few days.
I figure that, at worst, I can lug the loaner panda with me again. (Though the are some nice steels in Florida for sale via Craigslist! I could just go the and buy a better steel in person. |
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Karl Paulsen
From: Chicago
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Posted 5 Feb 2022 10:48 am Re: A decent, cheap steel?
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Lloyd Graves wrote: |
John Drury wrote: |
Fifty bucks? I've been accused of being tighter than a bulls @$$ in fly time, but I don't think I could pull that one off! |
Actually, looking at Facebook Marketplace, the are a fair number of Rogues for sale. I think that patience will be the key. The rogue I was going to buy didn't work out unfortunately - someone got to his door a day before me (darned familial obligations!) but I just keep checking every few days.
I figure that, at worst, I can lug the loaner panda with me again. (Though the are some nice steels in Florida for sale via Craigslist! I could just go the and buy a better steel in person. |
Buying one in person in FL sounds like a nice vacation diversion. _________________ Nickel and Steel. Sad Songs and Steel Guitar.
https://www.facebook.com/NickelandSteel
Chicago Valley Railroad. Trainspotting and Bargain Hunting...
https://chicagovalleyrailroad.blogspot.com/ |
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