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Topic: am I crazy? PSG repair question |
Nick Zyromski
From: Indiana, USA
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Posted 3 Sep 2021 5:14 pm
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Hi All - this is my first post. I've enjoyed the forum for a long time - lap steel player for 15 years, teetering on the edge of the PSG rabbit hole for many years and finally tumbled in this summer. I traded a guitar for a "Sho-Bud" PSG that "needed a little work" - the too good to be true deal likely is. Anyway, I found that this seems to be a Frankenstein guitar - the main problem is that several of the "elbows" are broken (see pic) - after some research and calling a few reputable repair folks I found that Sho-Bud doesn't make this mechanism (or individual "keys" - sorry if incorrect terminology) any more and the suggestion was made for me to take the mechanism apart and rearrange the keys so intact keys will be available to connect rods on 2,3,4,5,6,10. I'm reasonably handy, and willing to tackle to project as last ditch - I'm really looking to play this as PSG and not a console - but wanted to see if anyone here had advice. Questions:
1. is this a totally crazy idea?
2. in worst case scenario, can this guitar be rebuilt?
3. anyone in midwest (i'm in Indianapolis) with experience who may be willing to tackle this project if it is not something a rank amateur should do?
thanks!
Nick Z
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Ron Pruter
From: Arizona, USA
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Posted 3 Sep 2021 7:06 pm
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Nick. Unless this has sentimental value, I would say it"s not worth the trouble. I strongly doubt anyone here on the forum would disagree with me. Your parts may be worth something. Pedals, etc. Mavericks are not looked upon favorably when they are in perfect shape. Good luck finding an other guitar. Ron _________________ Emmons SKH Le Grande, '73 Fender P/J bass, Tick tack bass, Regal high strung, USA Nashville 112. |
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Paul Sutherland
From: Placerville, California
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Posted 3 Sep 2021 7:27 pm
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This Maverick is very rough. I wouldn't invest any money in it.
But I would try moving the "elbows" as has been suggested. I see three broken elbows, not four.
You need to have functioning "elbows" on strings 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, and 10. That assumes you have the standard 3 floor pedals, plus a knee lever that lowers the second string a half tone, and lowers the 8th string a half tone. I think that was what was standard on those guitars.
You might as well give it a try. You have nothing to lose.
Precise terminology is helpful. I think the "elbows" are generally referred to as changer "fingers". I'm not real sure about that however. _________________ It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. |
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Eric Dahlhoff
From: Point Arena, California
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Posted 3 Sep 2021 7:50 pm Maverik
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Yep - my first pedal steel was also a Maverick. I was lucky that only one of the pot-metal changer fingers broke.
It is easy enough to tap out the axle rod and swap the fingers. But likely the others too, will break eventually.
The Mav was a student (cheap) steel Sho~Bud made. You could probably spend a lot of time trying to track down replacement fingers.
I suggest you fix it enough to play, and play it as much as you can (they sound like a Sho~Bud!) until it breaks!
Have fun! _________________ "To live outside the law you must be honest." (Bob Dylan) |
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K Maul
From: Hadley, NY/Hobe Sound, FL
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Posted 3 Sep 2021 7:59 pm
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Don’t spend a lot of money or time on this. Swapping the broken parts for others is barely worth the time but that woukd be ALL I would spend time on. Make sure strings 3,4,5,6,8,10 and maybe 2 have working parts. _________________ KEVIN MAUL: Airline, Beard, Clinesmith, Danelectro, Evans, Fender, GFI, Gibson, Hilton, Ibanez, Justice, K+K, Live Strings, MOYO, National, Oahu, Peterson, Quilter, Rickenbacher, Sho~Bud, Supro, TC, Ultimate, VHT, Williams, X-otic, Yamaha, ZKing. |
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Johnie King
From: Tennessee, USA
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Posted 4 Sep 2021 5:39 am
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Looks like the key head has extra nuts an bolts.
Perfect little bud too bring back too a good pedal steel.
Harry Jackson or Jim Flynn could make this steel sing again.
I'm assuming you have the pedal bar an legs.
I'm no pro steel repair man but I would love too find a Maverick like this one too bring back too life.
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 4 Sep 2021 6:47 am
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Was a Fender Maverick an all-pull guitar?
I'm seeing return springs and what looks like scissors. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 4 Sep 2021 8:22 am
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Lane Gray wrote: |
Was a Fender Maverick an all-pull guitar?
I'm seeing return springs and what looks like scissors. |
Every one I ever saw was pull/release. _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 55 years and still counting. |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 4 Sep 2021 9:12 am
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Richard Sinkler wrote: |
Lane Gray wrote: |
Was a Fender Maverick an all-pull guitar?
I'm seeing return springs and what looks like scissors. |
Every one I ever saw was pull/release. |
This one sure looks all-pull. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Paul Sutherland
From: Placerville, California
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 4 Sep 2021 12:16 pm
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Lane Gray wrote: |
Richard Sinkler wrote: |
Lane Gray wrote: |
Was a Fender Maverick an all-pull guitar?
I'm seeing return springs and what looks like scissors. |
Every one I ever saw was pull/release. |
This one sure looks all-pull. |
A friend of mine has one of the Birdseye, raised neck Mavericks, and it was definitely pull/release. I remember him having me over when he first got it. I didn't know anything about it and couldn't tune it. The next day, I called Bobbe Seymore and he told me how to tune it. That was a great looking and sounding guitar. 3 pedals and 1 knee lever. _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 55 years and still counting. |
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Dana Blodgett
From: California, USA
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Posted 4 Sep 2021 1:44 pm
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I had an early 70s Maverick, and I think it was pull-release. It had the raised neck 3 pedal ,no roller nut, no knee lever. Sounded really good to me then!
I have an early 70s 6139/40 model now , Birdseye city! 3&4 _________________ Dana Blodgett
From Los Osos,Ca.
'74 ShoBud 6140 3+4, Martins HD28,D-12-28, D-15,'65 Gibson LG-1, '77 Gibson Les Paul special dbl cut p-90's, Les Paul Special p-100's,Les paul Special Hybrid(maple top) hbkr's,'68 Fender Strat reissue, Fender Squire Jazz bass,Epi mandolin,Epi Wilshire '66 reissue, Kamaka Concert uke, 70's Kamaka Soprano Uke, Fender Super amp, Ampeg ba112 bass amp,60's harmony banjo,'00 Gibson SG Supreme |
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Ian Rae
From: Redditch, England
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Posted 4 Sep 2021 3:56 pm
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Those aren't return springs. They're there to provide friction for the release tuners, which are likely #10/32 machine screws. _________________ Make sleeping dogs tell the truth!
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Nick Zyromski
From: Indiana, USA
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Posted 5 Sep 2021 11:21 am
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Thanks everybody- I’ll let you know how it turns out |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 5 Sep 2021 3:51 pm
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The tipoff that it must be a pull-release design is that there is no place to attach lowering rods!(No lowering fingers.)
As others have said, it could be made playable with what's there. When I first started playing, I would have loved to have something like that to start out and monkey around with! ![Laughing](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) |
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