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Topic: D13 12 string keyless steel build. |
Johnie King
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Posted 3 Sep 2021 7:00 am |
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What is the best scale length for Johnny Cox's D13 tuning on a new 12 string keyless build lm building for my self?
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 3 Sep 2021 7:02 am
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Cool.
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 3 Sep 2021 7:20 am
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You can get a 25.5 scale length on a Excel steel so if you tune too D 13 instead of E 13
Could a person go too a 26 inch scale?
Excel has a 25.5 scale available.
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Sam Norris
From:
Austin, TX
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Posted 3 Sep 2021 8:15 am
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| I have been using the tuning tuned down to C13 on my 25.5 inch Excel with great success. |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 3 Sep 2021 8:31 am
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| Sam do you use larger string gauge strings than standard E 9 th gauge strings? |
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Sam Norris
From:
Austin, TX
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Posted 3 Sep 2021 8:38 am
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| Yes I do. I was able to use long scale C6 gauges as a reference. |
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Daniel McKee
From:
Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 3 Sep 2021 3:55 pm
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| Sam I know sound samples aren’t easy to do usually but I’d love to hear your results with the long scale and lower tuning. That sounds fascinating |
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Johnny Cox
From:
Williamsom WVA, raised in Nashville TN, Lives in Hallettsville Texas
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Posted 3 Sep 2021 4:02 pm
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Johnie, I'm going 25" scale on my new keyless.
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Johnny "Dumplin" Cox
"YANKIN' STRINGS & STOMPIN' PEDALS" since 1967. |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 3 Sep 2021 4:10 pm
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| Ok Johnny thanks |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Sam Norris
From:
Austin, TX
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Posted 3 Sep 2021 5:10 pm
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| Sam I know sound samples aren’t easy to do usually but I’d love to hear your results with the long scale and lower tuning. That sounds fascinating |
I’ll see if I can get anything recorded during this weekends’ shows for ya. Something you could compare it to is Sneaky Pete’s tuning, as he played B6 on a 25.5 inch fender, but still had the E9 A pedal sound (along with a lot more). Also, there probably isn’t much need to go with a long scale, since a standard 24.25 scale handles C6 just fine, and C13 falls within the same range. I just happen to really like long scale and it’s what I have.
I have been playing with this copedent for at least 3 weeks now and really enjoy it. I have had no difficulty moving up a few frets in the high register to compensate, and haven’t noticed much negative effect on tone up there. That was my only concern with going so low. |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 3 Sep 2021 5:54 pm
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| Good news Sam"! Thanks |
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James Quackenbush
From:
Pomona, New York, USA
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Posted 9 Sep 2021 1:30 pm
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| If your going to be tuning DOWN, my thoughts are that since the longer scale affords more string tension, you will have a tighter,punchier, more pronounced, tone....Just a thought ....Jim |
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Larry Custer
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 11 Sep 2021 4:02 pm D-13
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I have a 12string keyless Pedalmaster,
I would like to make into D-13. It has
8 pedals and 5 knee levers. It's set up to E9/B6,
Day setup. |
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Sonny Jenkins
From:
Texas Masonic Retirement Center,,,Arlington Tx
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Posted 16 Sep 2021 6:25 pm
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hey Larry,,I'm also playing E9/B6 uni with Day set up. I'd like to know the lever set up to be commensurate with pedal for Day set up. My RKR lowers Es,,,RKL raises
Sonny |
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Larry Custer
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2021 9:38 pm
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| My E's are the same as yours, RKR lowers,RKL,raises |
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Johnny Cox
From:
Williamsom WVA, raised in Nashville TN, Lives in Hallettsville Texas
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Posted 17 Sep 2021 10:29 am Re: D-13
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| Larry Custer wrote: |
I have a 12string keyless Pedalmaster,
I would like to make into D-13. It has
8 pedals and 5 knee levers. It's set up to E9/B6,
Day setup. |
Try this and just switch from ABC to CBA and switch LKL and LKR.
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Johnny "Dumplin" Cox
"YANKIN' STRINGS & STOMPIN' PEDALS" since 1967. |
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Dustin Rhodes
From:
Owasso OK
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Posted 17 Sep 2021 6:03 pm
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| Johnie King wrote: |
You can get a 25.5 scale length on a Excel steel so if you tune too D 13 instead of E 13
Could a person go too a 26 inch scale?
Excel has a 25.5 scale available.
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The mechanics on those excels always look incredible. |
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