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Topic: Do you split your B to A lowers? |
Greg Gefell
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Posted 2 Jul 2021 3:23 pm |
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For those who lower their B's to A's, do you split them to a C or to a Bb? I have those lowers on the 0 pedal to the left of my A pedal so I can use them together. I tried it both ways and can see some musical pros and cons with each choice. The biggest drawback to the Bb split was the massive amount of rod travel and resultant pedal stiffness needed to get that much changer movement.
I know most people have a B to Bb lever but I do not. I do have G# to F# on a lever though so I can get the equivalent Franklin pedal change (with P0) when needed.
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Mike Holder
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Alabama! Home of the great “Don Helms” & his singer “Hank Williams”!
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Posted 3 Jul 2021 8:14 am Splits
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Depends on what guitar you have because as you say the mechanism can be challenged to perform properly and the travel needed will vary, however if you can do it there are many musical options available. I have a Franklin zero pedal and a vertical B/Bb and use them both with splits frequently.
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 3 Jul 2021 9:38 am
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I've had the LKV knee lever since I bought a new Franklin in 82. It lowered both B's to Bb. About 2 years after I got the Guitar I had Mr Franklin add adjustment screws for strings 5 and 6. That allowed both the B to Bb LKV and also allowed tuning for the C "split" with the A pedal. I use the split mainly to get a minor.
My RKL knee lever has the split for the 6th string, too. Screw on the changer end for the full lower to F# and the G split with B pedal.
I now have a GFI and it has 5th and 6th string splits from the factory with additional pull rod method. |
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Mike Holder
From:
Alabama! Home of the great “Don Helms” & his singer “Hank Williams”!
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Posted 3 Jul 2021 9:50 am Splits
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Jack; your Franklin is the only one that had actual tuning split screws, after that you needed a raise rod to achieve the same result which limits your copedant. I wish the Franklins used a tuning screw assembly along the back of the guitar like Emmons guitars do, they work really well.
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Greg Gefell
From:
Upstate NY
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Posted 3 Jul 2021 12:16 pm
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Mike, on your 0 pedal do you have all three full step lower changes on 10,6,5? If so what do you have the splits set to?
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Mike Holder
From:
Alabama! Home of the great “Don Helms” & his singer “Hank Williams”!
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Posted 3 Jul 2021 12:31 pm Splits
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Yes 5,6, & 10 all go down a tone, the vertical lowers 5 & 10 half tone ( which becomes split Bb or C note. I can’t reach the B pedal so I don’t tune a split G note on it but by pushing my zero and A pedal down they cancel each other out on strings 5 & 10 which leaves me with string 6 down a full tone, add the E lever lower and you have a 5 chord on strings 4,5,6,8 & 10 in the root position as you would have if you lowered your 6th string a full tone on a knee lever which I don’t, I raise 1,2 & 7.
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Greg Gefell
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Upstate NY
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Posted 5 Jul 2021 5:57 am
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I never thought about splitting 0 and A to cancel out the 10 and 5 drop as I already have the 6 lower to f# on a knee. I’m guessing it’s some tricky rod timing to prevent that simultaneous raise lower hiccup that you can get with a split.
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Mike Holder
From:
Alabama! Home of the great “Don Helms” & his singer “Hank Williams”!
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Posted 5 Jul 2021 7:13 am Splits
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I was analyzing my copedant one day and decided to try it, luckily the changer accepted the stress with no push back and I gained an extra change.
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