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Topic: 12k Emmons Pickups |
Johnny Cox
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Williamsom WVA, raised in Nashville TN, Lives in Hallettsville Texas
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Posted 22 Dec 2021 8:10 pm |
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So my bonus son Ryan has a late 70s Emmons P.P. that just didn't have that sound that a P.P. should have. So he ordered a set of Emmons pickups from Kelcey O'Neil wound to 12k and I put them in for him and did a little neck tightness adjusting. Man oh man what a difference they made. Literally like a different guitar.
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Johnny "Dumplin" Cox
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Ron Funk
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Ballwin, Missouri
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Posted 23 Dec 2021 8:06 pm
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Johnny Cox - and others
I've never been one to change out a pickup on an Emmons steel.
Would you mind sharing your knowledge regarding the ohm readings of pickups vs. their impact on Tone.
For example:
Pickups with low ohm readings typically......
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Pickups with high ohm readings typically.......
And what pickup (Emmons or other manufacturer) might be your favorite in vintage Emmons PPs
Thank you very much Johnny
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Marty Broussard
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Broussard, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 24 Dec 2021 3:59 am
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Johnny,
Is that the ‘76 D10 wood grain mica?
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Johnny Cox
From:
Williamsom WVA, raised in Nashville TN, Lives in Hallettsville Texas
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Posted 24 Dec 2021 10:05 am
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| Ron Funk wrote: |
Johnny Cox - and others
I've never been one to change out a pickup on an Emmons steel.
Would you mind sharing your knowledge regarding the ohm readings of pickups vs. their impact on Tone.
For example:
Pickups with low ohm readings typically......
and
Pickups with high ohm readings typically.......
And what pickup (Emmons or other manufacturer) might be your favorite in vintage Emmons PPs
Thank you very much Johnny
Ron |
Ron, over the years single coil pickups have gotten heavier. I've seen them as high as 22k. I like the cleanliness and sparkle of much lighter wound pups. I've played guitars that have them as low as 8k like the Fender 1000. The early Emmons and Sho-Bud guitars had pickups more in the range of 12k-15k. There seems to be a wall at 15k that above that the sound starts getting muddy on the low strings. My Sho-Bud has dual coil pups tapped at 9.6k and 16k. I general play it at 9.6k. I've never found a humbucker that sounds as good as a single coil wound properly. Most Pup manufacturers use basically the same wire but Emmons always used a different type and I think that's why they sound the way they do.
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Johnny "Dumplin" Cox
"YANKIN' STRINGS & STOMPIN' PEDALS" since 1967. |
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Johnny Cox
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Williamsom WVA, raised in Nashville TN, Lives in Hallettsville Texas
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Posted 24 Dec 2021 10:06 am
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| Marty Broussard wrote: |
Johnny,
Is that the ‘76 D10 wood grain mica? |
Yes sir. Those pups really woke that guitar up.
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Johnny "Dumplin" Cox
"YANKIN' STRINGS & STOMPIN' PEDALS" since 1967. |
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 24 Dec 2021 11:17 am
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I am not an Emmons guy myself, but over the years have heard from more than one Emmons player that the heavier wound Emmons pickups simply did not sound as good as the lighter wound ones. I know over the years they had a pretty big difference in windings. There is a reason we all love the classic steel sounds we grew up on...
the guys that played those guitars were using the factory pickups that were wound a LOT lighter than what we consider normal these days.
Those old Fender and Bud steels had pickups wound at 8 K up to maybe 12 K.. today guys are using 21 K line transformers under their strings.... bob
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Ron Funk
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Ballwin, Missouri
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Posted 24 Dec 2021 2:36 pm
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| Thanks a bunch Johnny Cox. |
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