Bb6 Info

Sonny Jenkins · From: Texas Masonic Retirement Center,,,Arlington Tx

I've been thinking about Bb6 for a long time,,,should have considered it more seriously when Reece suggested it,,but was stuck on standard E9/B6 uni,,,LOL. Anyway, are there any Bb6 players that would be willing to share more details as to how Bb6 would relate to standard E9 and C6? I have Jr.'s basis Bb6 copedent but I'm trying to figure out what moves one would do to get E9 sounds and of course it is already in a 6th mode. One issue with the common Bb6 copedents that are available is, I play the Day set up (CBA pedals) and I'm trying to see which knees would need to be changed to be compatible with those pedal moves. Anyone who could share info would much appreciated. Thanks.

Ian Rae · From: Redditch, England

There seem to be two Bb6s - let me explain! One would be the full Anderson coped which I've tried to get my head round but can't (and I have a university degree and everything). The other approach appears to be "standard" E9/B6 dropped a half step presumably to get E away from the nut and/or accommodate bands that like to detune.

I'm never sure which is meant. I will now make way for people with actual experience Embarassed

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Sonny Jenkins · From: Texas Masonic Retirement Center,,,Arlington Tx

Actually I see the difference depending on which side (6th? or 9th?) it is approached from. To me the E9/B6 approaches the "universal" tuning starting from E9 and engaging a lever/pedal to put the tuning into a 6th mode. The Bb6 approaches the universal aspect from the 6th mode, engaging a pedal/lever to get 9th sounds. The actual "key" it is tuned to is immaterial,,,could be any "key",,it is the "mode" of the tuning that differentiates. Seems I'm more drawn to 6th type stuff these days,,old western swing, pop, light jazz, standards,,than I am traditional country that is heavy 9th mode.

Ian Rae · From: Redditch, England

Thanks for that, Sonny - I see it now. I've always been equally interested in both styles, so I've always had a foot in each camp (well, my right knee actually) Smile

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J D Sauser · From: Wellington, Florida

To me C, B and Bb6th is all the same. The intervals stay on the same strings (meaning the "jump" from wound to plain happens at the same degree of the tuning chord.
Things change at A6th, and you can see that on an E9th or Universal guitar when you hit A&B and compare to the same chord 2 frets down with the Eb-lever engaged. The whole chord jumps over one string. It's all the same intervals, the same line up of degrees, BUT TONALITY changes... TIMBRE because.
I like A6th on the upper register but on the lower one it dives into mud a degree earlier than C, B or Bb 6th.
I MISS have asked Maurice's reason to have gone Bb. The only logical explanation of another of his pupils here was TIMBRE A6th was on of the 3 popular tuning chords (next to E13 and C6th) and he felt A6 sounded too muddy.

I have played mostly E9th/B6th and have then changed to B6th and now, for the purpose of following lessons with a C6th player, tuned up to C6th. String tension also affect timbre but never as much as shifting the string gauges to another degree.
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