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Topic: Humbucker into my S10 Emmons |
Brendan Mitchell
From:
Melbourne Australia
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Posted 8 Mar 2021 6:31 pm |
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| Thinking about replacing the pup in my p/p . Engineer can’t deal with the noise . Any suggestions , preferences ? |
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Marty Broussard
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Broussard, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 8 Mar 2021 6:51 pm
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Kelcey ONeil
From:
Sevierville, TN
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Posted 8 Mar 2021 11:12 pm
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| Assuming you currently have a single coil( the Emmons original?). If so, you may try a hum debugger, or make sure the pickup is properly grounded. Most Emmons seem to lose a bit of their characteristic tone with a humbucker, and even they are not as quiet as you sometimes would think they’d be. |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 9 Mar 2021 4:10 am
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Why not an Emmons Pentad? Switchable to single coil at will.
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George Kimery
From:
Limestone, TN, USA
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Posted 9 Mar 2021 5:39 am Humbucker into S'10 Emmons
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| Keep that single coil and get an Electro Harmonix Hum De-Bugger. It will make it quiet as a mouse peeing on a cotton ball. You will not even hear any circuit noise. I've been through the humbucker pickups in Emmons pp's. They sounded good but I lost the pp sound to a large degree. You might like the sound better. It's always about the differences in the way our ears hear and the sound we're looking for. |
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John Swain
From:
Winchester, Va
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Posted 9 Mar 2021 6:05 am
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| FWIW,Mike Johnson uses chrome Bill Lawrence 705s in his p/p. And BL710s in his Franklins! |
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Brandon Schafer
From:
Indiana, USA
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Posted 9 Mar 2021 10:17 am
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I have a D-12 Emmons with its original single coils. I have an SD-12 Emmons with a Telonics pickup.
I have no issue whatsoever with the tone of the Emmons with the Telonics pickup. I certainly don’t feel like I’m losing anything but 60 cycle hum. If you aren’t a single coil purist, the Telonics will get you there. |
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Dave Campbell
From:
Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 9 Mar 2021 12:28 pm
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| the telonics x10 is fantastic in a push pull. i think it's as close as you're going to get to the single coil sound, if that's what you're after. |
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Ken Byng
From:
Southampton, England
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Posted 9 Mar 2021 12:49 pm
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Lawrence 705s in an Emmons push pull is a marriage made in heaven.
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Mike DiAlesandro
From:
Kent, Ohio
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Posted 9 Mar 2021 4:57 pm
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| Ken Byng wrote: |
| Lawrence 705s in an Emmons push pull is a marriage made in heaven. |
I agree with Ken, got lucky and found this D-10 with these nice chrome surround 705's. They get nice tone and don't make me even consider replacing them w/single coils...
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Brendan Mitchell
From:
Melbourne Australia
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Posted 10 Mar 2021 1:16 pm
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| Thanks for all your thoughts . Still undecided . It’s a toss up between a humbucker (Telonics 206)and the EH debugger . |
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Bill Burch
From:
California, USA
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Posted 10 Mar 2021 1:27 pm Re: Humbucker into S'10 Emmons
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| George Kimery wrote: |
| Keep that single coil and get an Electro Harmonix Hum De-Bugger. It will make it quiet as a mouse peeing on a cotton ball. You will not even hear any circuit noise. I've been through the humbucker pickups in Emmons pp's. They sounded good but I lost the pp sound to a large degree. You might like the sound better. It's always about the differences in the way our ears hear and the sound we're looking for. |
+1 on the EH Hum Debugger |
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Marc Jenkins
From:
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 10 Mar 2021 2:50 pm
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| FYI the Hum Debugger does mess with certain notes a bit. Once I heard it I couldn’t keep using it! |
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Jon Light (deceased)
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 10 Mar 2021 3:16 pm
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The Hum Debugger is an extraordinarily powerful and effective 60 cycle hum eliminator and I will use it without hesitation in a situation where the hum is so bad as to be an impossible distraction. However Marc is absolutely correct. It has some minor tone artifacts, resulting from notch filtering -- not terrible, but tough to accept for a tone purist (which I am not...I can live with the tone alteration). But its other effect is that if you are slowly glissing thru the frequency of the notch, it can kill your sound. A dead spot.
So there is a definite trade off. I would only use the Hum Debugger for severe situations and then I will be most grateful for the marvelous product. But I consider humbuckers to be a much preferable all around choice and a much less dramatic compromise.
This post is quite a coincidence in that I have a brand new-to-me push-pull, as of last week. I chose humbuckers for all my steels, years ago. This has the original single coil. I have not yet decided what I'm going to do.
I wonder how a ZB style pickup would work in it? Hmmmm. |
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Dave Campbell
From:
Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 11 Mar 2021 3:25 pm
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i have a hum debugger. if i thought i had to use it a lot i would change pickups. it messes with your sound.
i had the telonics 206 in a shobud. it was a great sounding pickup. |
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Asa Brosius
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Posted 11 Mar 2021 6:20 pm
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| +1 on the Telonics- sounds very good in a pp and gives you more useable throw in the vp before noise creeps in, or functionally, clean sustain. Seems the hum debugger works for some folks- I'd definitely suggest a new pickup instead- I found the pedal drastically alters response and sound, in addition to being something else to drag around and power. |
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Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 12 Mar 2021 6:24 am
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In my experience as a pickup builder and PP player just about any humbucking pickup will sound great in that Emmons. Don’t sweat it. I would skip the debugger.
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