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Marc Helms

 

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Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 6:28 am    
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1948 Double-Neck Gibson Console Grande Owned and played by the late Don Helms. This is the original "Ole Red" that he used on almost all Hank Williams' hits, including "You're Cheatin" Heart", "Cold, Cold Heart", "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry", "Hey Good Lookin'",and dozens more. He also played on Patsy Cline's "Walking After Midnight" and other hits by Stonewall Jackson, Lefty Frizzell, and The Louvin Brothers, just to name a few.
This a once in a lifetime offer to own the guitar that helped define the Hank Williams sound. reply to tmarc6@live.com


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Abe Levy


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Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 8:04 am    
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Holy Smokes!!!!!
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Erv Niehaus


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Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 8:14 am    
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How are you related to Don?
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Peter Shenkin

 

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Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 8:17 am     Jerry, not Don
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On the first recording (the best known one) of "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry", Jerry Byrd, not Don Helms, is on steel. (Recorded at Herzog Studios, Cincinnati, 1949.)
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Mike DiAlesandro


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Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 8:24 am    
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https://youtu.be/ibqGpZJt9Hg

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Jon Irsik


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Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 8:36 am    
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"The" 'Ole Red' was in the Patsy Cline Museum last I knew.

Taken November 9, 2019

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Jerry Cobetto


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Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 8:59 am     "Ole Red"
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It would definitely be great to own a piece of steel guitar history, but there's a part of me that feels that Don Helms' Gibson Console Grande, which was on so many of Hank's tunes, AND on stage with Hank, should be in a museum, like the Hank Williams Museum.
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Keith Bolog

 

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Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 8:59 am     hmm
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Nobody collects steel guitars. We ACCUMULATE them lol.
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David Ball


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Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 10:01 am    
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Mike DiAlesandro wrote:
https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=364077


Different person--Mark Helm rather than the OP here, Marc Helms...

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Wesley Medlen

 

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Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 10:44 am    
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Back quite a few yrs ago here @ the opry on Saturday I met at a restaurant on Sat. morning the owner of the opry. He hollerd at me motioned me over to their table. Another couple were with them. Heasked me you are a steel player do you know who Don Helms is. I said yes he said let me introduce you to him. When I went to the opry Don and his wife were setting at a table invited me to sit down we talked about an hour. He told me had turned down an offer of $100,000 for it said it was going to go to hall of fame when he passed. He passed about 90 days later. A very nice gentleman. This was at Louisburg, Ks. about 50 miles south of Kansas City. It was at the Middle Creek Opry. Wes
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 10:51 am    
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How many of you think this for sale listing is legitimate? Whoa!
Erv
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Damir Besic


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Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 11:07 am    
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Erv Niehaus wrote:
How many of you think this for sale listing is legitimate? Whoa!
Erv


I would not touch this with a 10’ pole
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Erv Niehaus


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Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 11:11 am    
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Damir,
Glad you agree!
This Marc Helms only joined a month or two ago and this is his 1st and only posting.
Makes you wonder. Rolling Eyes
Erv
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Jim Rossen

 

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Iowa, USA
Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 11:13 am    
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Marc- What is evidence that this is the guitar that was used by Helms on the Hank Williams songs?
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Jim
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Wesley Medlen

 

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Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 11:13 am    
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I second Damirs's comment. Wes
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Rick Baker

 

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Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 11:26 am    
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Caveat Emptor
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David Zornes

 

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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 11:31 am     ‘Ole Red’
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Erv Niehaus wrote:
How many of you think this for sale listing is legitimate? Whoa!
Erv

I thought the same thing but waited till someone else agreed with my caveat emptor.
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Damir Besic


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Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 11:37 am    
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Erv Niehaus wrote:
Damir,
Glad you agree!
This Marc Helms only joined a month or two ago and this is his 1st and only posting.
Makes you wonder. Rolling Eyes
Erv


right
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Charles Stange

 

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San Francisco, California
Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 11:43 am    
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Not to be confused with fellow forumite Mark Helm...

just thought I should mention.
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 11:51 am    
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Not to mention, instead of posting pictures of the actual guitar, he posts a picture and poster of Don playing his Gibson.
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Bill McCloskey

 

Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 11:54 am    
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Don Helms did have a son named Timothy Marc Helms:

https://obits.tennessean.com/obituaries/tennessean/obituary.aspx?n=donald-h-helms-don&pid=115519723

No idea if this is the same guy. But the email is suspicious as hell: throwaway microsoft email
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 11:59 am    
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Bill McCloskey wrote:
Don Helms did have a son named Timothy Marc Helms:

https://obits.tennessean.com/obituaries/tennessean/obituary.aspx?n=donald-h-helms-don&pid=115519723

No idea if this is the same guy. But the email is suspicious as hell: throwaway microsoft email


Interesting. Maybe the Helms family regained possession of the guitar and are now looking to sell it.

Maybe someone in Nashville could go to the Pastsy Cline museum, or at least talk to them to see if Don's guitar is still in their possession.
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Jon Irsik


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Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 12:09 pm    
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I find it difficult to believe this is 'The' Console Grande. I'd heard through the years that Don had one or two more he kept as spares but they couldn't match the mojo of Ole Red. Maybe this is one of those, I dunno.
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Gary Watkins


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Bristol, VA
Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 12:19 pm     Re: Collectors Dream
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Marc Helms wrote:
1948 Double-Neck Gibson Console Grande Owned and played by the late Don Helms. This is the original "Ole Red" that he used on almost all Hank Williams' hits, including "You're Cheatin" Heart", "Cold, Cold Heart", "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry", "Hey Good Lookin'",and dozens more. He also played on Patsy Cline's "Walking After Midnight" and other hits by Stonewall Jackson, Lefty Frizzell, and The Louvin Brothers, just to name a few.
This a once in a lifetime offer to own the guitar that helped define the Hank Williams sound. reply to tmarc6@live.com




I'll take it! I've always wanted a collectors guitar. I just can't pass this offer up.

Thanks,
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Erv Niehaus


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Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 12:31 pm    
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If Marc Helms would be Don Helms son, why wouldn't he refer to him as "my father" when referencing him and not "the late Don Helms"?
Erv
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