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Topic: Anyone know how to date an older MSA 12 string? |
Ken Metcalf
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San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 26 Jan 2021 7:15 am |
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Anyone know how to date an older MSA 12 string?
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MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
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Dennis Detweiler
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Solon, Iowa, US
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Posted 26 Jan 2021 7:42 am
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I have a 1975 and 1976. This one looks like previous to that? Also, previous of Super Sustain. Maybe 1974. I think the first two numbers are floor and knee levers. 4 floors and no knee levers? I bought my 1976 new and it had 5 and 2. 5 floors and 2 knees. First two numbers on the serial number is 52. The last two digits are the production numbers which requires factory reference. There's a forum member that acquired that list after Maurice passed away. Hopefully he will respond.
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1976 Birdseye U-12 MSA with Telonics 427 pickup, 1975 Birdseye U-12 MSA with Telonics X-12 pickup, Revelation preamp, Carbon Copy Delay and Hall Of Fame Reverb, Crown XLS 1002, 2- 15" Eminence Wheelhouse speakers, ShoBud Pedal, Effects Pedals. 1949 Epiphone D-8. |
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David Hodan
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Denton, Texas; USA
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Jim Bloomfield
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Colorado, USA
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Posted 26 Jan 2021 10:03 am Re: Anyone know how to date an older MSA 12 string?
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[quote="Ken Metcalf"]Anyone know how to date an older MSA 12 string?
I'd start with flowers and a nice dinner. |
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 26 Jan 2021 10:16 am Re: Anyone know how to date an older MSA 12 string?
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[quote="Jim Bloomfield"]
| Ken Metcalf wrote: |
Anyone know how to date an older MSA 12 string?
I'd start with flowers and a nice dinner. |
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MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
Bunch of stomp boxes |
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 26 Jan 2021 12:46 pm
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My friend is trying to sell and doesn't know what to start with.
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MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
Bunch of stomp boxes |
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Mitchell Smithey
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Dallas, USA
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Posted 26 Jan 2021 3:02 pm
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| That is most likely a ‘74 |
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Larry Dering
From:
Missouri, USA
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Posted 26 Jan 2021 4:25 pm
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| David Wright would know. He's a forum member. |
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Ben Lawson
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Brooksville Florida
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Posted 27 Jan 2021 6:01 am
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| Over the last few years I've sold two MSA single 12's. The one you posted has a few more pedals & knee's. If this guitar is in good working order I'd say $1,500. to $2,000. might be a reasonable value. Start pricing at what you really want to get because you can always go lower but rarely, if ever, go higher |
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Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Posted 27 Jan 2021 10:50 am
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Note that the neck in this one extends all the way to the pickup. MSA started making aluminum(?) pickup wells around 1975 or 6, so this has to be earlier than that.
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Dennis Detweiler
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Solon, Iowa, US
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Posted 27 Jan 2021 2:37 pm
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Good observance Mike. Also, all four knee levers are later. I have a 1975 and a 1976 , both U-12's) and both have black anodized knees and aluminum pickup wells.
I bought a new MSA D-10 in 72 or 73 and it still had the formica and narrow pickups. I'm guessing this one is a 74.
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1976 Birdseye U-12 MSA with Telonics 427 pickup, 1975 Birdseye U-12 MSA with Telonics X-12 pickup, Revelation preamp, Carbon Copy Delay and Hall Of Fame Reverb, Crown XLS 1002, 2- 15" Eminence Wheelhouse speakers, ShoBud Pedal, Effects Pedals. 1949 Epiphone D-8. |
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Bo Borland
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South Jersey -
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Posted 28 Jan 2021 8:56 am
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I recently sold S12 # 1C 2272 1= single neck C = Classic 1974 was the date
my old S10 Classic was 1C 2013 was also 1974 I bought it brand new from a music store |
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Bobby D. Jones
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West Virginia, USA
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Posted 30 Jan 2021 4:59 am
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I will add some more for thought.
This is my MSA Driftwood White Formica S10 4X4 Serial 1C2921. I contacted Mr. Anderson several years ago. By his records he said, " It was born July 9th, 1974". This guitar has a 12 string key head, The 2 flats at the roller nut is not drilled for tuners. The Tone and Volume controls have chrome plated knobs. The hole to the right of the tone and Vol. is covered with a chrome cap. It has a cutout in the neck for the pickup and the neck extends to the changer mounting blocks.
The pad is attached with Vel-Cro so no holes drilled in the guitar. |
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Bo Borland
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South Jersey -
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Posted 31 Jan 2021 7:24 am
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| My guess is possibly 1975-probably 1976. My reasoning is MSA would have had to make 2000 + in a year to reach a 4000 serial number |
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Dennis Detweiler
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Solon, Iowa, US
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Posted 31 Jan 2021 7:54 am
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My 1975 12 string #4505 was made April 1975. Green birdseye maple, aluminum pickup pocket.
My 1976 12 string is #5228. I know that it's an early 1976. It's identical to the 1975 except it's brown birdseye maple.
Judging from some of the dated guitars on this post, yours would most likely be a 1974. Possibly a late 1973. I'm not sure which year MSA transitioned from formica to clear finished wood and wider pickup? Probably transitioned 1973 or 1974?
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1976 Birdseye U-12 MSA with Telonics 427 pickup, 1975 Birdseye U-12 MSA with Telonics X-12 pickup, Revelation preamp, Carbon Copy Delay and Hall Of Fame Reverb, Crown XLS 1002, 2- 15" Eminence Wheelhouse speakers, ShoBud Pedal, Effects Pedals. 1949 Epiphone D-8. |
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