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Topic: Cross bar on some steel guitars |
Ron Scott
From: Michigan
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Posted 9 Jan 2021 5:46 am
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Just kind of curious as to why the cross bar on some steels? My thoughts are, it has something to do with not flexing? Ron _________________ Franklin D10 Stereo - 8 and 6 - Black Box-Zum Encore 4 and 5 Nashville 400,Session 400, DD3 for delay ,also Benado Effects pedal.
Steeling with Franklin's..and Zum Encore
Last edited by Ron Scott on 13 Sep 2021 11:13 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Marco Schouten
From: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Posted 9 Jan 2021 6:26 am
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It helps to prevent the body from flexing. Imagine a shoebox, when you push in the middle, the sidewalls move outward, allowing it to bend. if you connect the sidewalls with a bracket, you prevent them from bending outwards, thus reducing flexing of the top of the box. It works the same on a steel guitar, though the flexing can't be seen by the naked eye. _________________ ----------------------------------
JCH SD-10 with BL XR-16 pickup, Sho-Bud Volume Pedal, Evidence Audio Lyric HG cables, Quilter Steelaire combo |
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Ian Rae
From: Redditch, England
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Posted 9 Jan 2021 7:48 am
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I once had an old D10 which showed no signs of distortion at all, but I could barely lift it.
The puzzle of improving rigidity without adding weight (ideally) is ages old.
My modern instruments are much lighter but don't bend either, so clearly some progress has been made! _________________ Make sleeping dogs tell the truth!
Homebuilt keyless U12 7x5, Excel keyless U12 8x8, Williams keyless U12 7x8, Telonics rack and 15" cabs |
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Jack Stoner
From: Kansas City, MO
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Posted 9 Jan 2021 8:14 am
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I was told Emmons did it becau8se as Marco mentions the aprons bowing out. I had a 71 Emmons with the metal bar and when I got my Franklin, that initially had some crossbar binding problems (that Mr. Franklin took care of) I decided to install a bar similar to the Emmons. Mr. Franklin saw it and apparently thought it was a good idea as he started installing them on the Franklins.
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Jim Palenscar
From: Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 9 Jan 2021 8:15 am
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Some guitars had a tendency for the aprons to warp and the cross shafts could fall out. To prevent that cross straps were used on some- many times not needed but an inexpensive ounce of prevention was worth a pound of cure.
Last edited by Jim Palenscar on 9 Jan 2021 2:55 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 9 Jan 2021 8:37 am
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The way the p/p Emmon's cross shafts were mounted needed the crossbar or they would bind if the sides bowed out.
I rebuilt an Emmons p/p and I had to rework the cross shafts mounting blocks to take care of the binding issue.
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Ron Scott
From: Michigan
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Posted 9 Jan 2021 2:17 pm
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My Franklin did not come with it and I have never had any issues. Jim Palenscar worked on it once and never said anything so never knew why. Thanks for the replys. Ron _________________ Franklin D10 Stereo - 8 and 6 - Black Box-Zum Encore 4 and 5 Nashville 400,Session 400, DD3 for delay ,also Benado Effects pedal.
Steeling with Franklin's..and Zum Encore |
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