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Ryan Lunenfeld


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Post  Posted 13 Nov 2020 3:56 pm    
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Has anyone played with the three Duesenbergs?

I'm curious to hear the tonality differences.

The difference I'm understanding from their website is that the pickups are different for each? and the bodies are a different material?

I've been eying out the Fairy tale once I sell my Frying pan...

Sound preference thus far from my experience has lent towards the Gibson EH-185, a bit more warm, less aggressive with the slanted pickup.

Curious to which would match that the most. Or maybe try something new ? Alien
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Jeff Highland

 

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Post  Posted 13 Nov 2020 6:17 pm    
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I don't think I'll ever get the chance to try the others, it took 10 months to get in my Fairytale, finally direct importing from Germany after the local guys let me down.

Other than wood and finishes

Pomona -Asymetric body, Toaster style Humbuckers

Fairytale - Symetric body Humbucker Bridge, Split single (noise free) in neck Position.

Alamo -Symetric body Duesenberg big single coils.

The first two use standard Humbucker mounts while the Alamo pickups are a Proprietary shape so you are stuck with them.
I have a fairly electrically noisy studio so I am happy to have noise free pickups
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Ryan Lunenfeld


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Post  Posted 14 Nov 2020 11:10 am    
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Also looks like the fairytale is mahogony while the alamo is korina?

hmm.

I'm curious about the two tonalities...

Or should I just stick to my <3 the gibson eh185...and get an eh185 amp to go along? haha
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Ryan Lunenfeld


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Post  Posted 14 Nov 2020 11:11 am    
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I heard a lot of conflicting things bout Korina vs Mahogony?

The skylark Korina seems to sell for a bit more, it's those flying V guys who think it's better?

Or is there a real difference?
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Jeff Highland

 

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Post  Posted 14 Nov 2020 1:37 pm    
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I'd expect that any differences from body wood are miniscule compared to pickup differences.
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Jerry Touval

 

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Great Falls, Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 15 Nov 2020 9:31 am    
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Are there any Fairytales for sale anywhere in the US? Looks like nobody has them in stock right now and I don’t want to get stuck with the issues related to having one shipped from Germany.
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Larry Carlson


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Post  Posted 15 Nov 2020 9:39 am    
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I received my Fairytale about a year ago.
Couldn't find one in the U.S. so I ordered it from Germany.
Yeah..........it took 8 months before it arrived at my door. It was a loooong 8 months.
But now that it is here it was worth it.
It is an amazing guitar......at least to me. Just such a beautiful tone.
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Bill McCloskey

 

Post  Posted 15 Nov 2020 10:28 am    
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I had a Duesy, Fairytale model, and sold it almost immediately. I never could get used to the hand levers, which got in the way, and the string breakage which was a pain to replace.
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Jerry Touval

 

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Post  Posted 15 Nov 2020 10:40 am    
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Larry – thanks for the info. Chalk it up to one of my character flaws, but for my $2500 I don’t think I could put up with 8 months delayed gratification. Hopefully I can find one that’s available from a US dealer.

Bill – thanks for the info. I’ve seen the posts about string breakage. I’ll make sure I have a good supply of strings on hand.
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Bill McCloskey

 

Post  Posted 15 Nov 2020 10:46 am    
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And hopefully it won't happen while you are on stage. Smile

Took me about an hour to figure out how to change the string the first time it broke (which happened about 2 hours worth of playing time).
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Brian Henry

 

Post  Posted 15 Nov 2020 12:25 pm    
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The only guy II know of who can make the duessenberg sound good is the German guy who invented it !
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Larry Carlson


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Post  Posted 15 Nov 2020 3:26 pm    
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I haven't broken any strings yet and have had it for about about a year.
However I'm not an aggressive player and I talk to it gently and hum along while I play.

I found a quote from someone a while back that wrote Duesenberg and asked about string breakage.

They wrote back and stated:
“ If you find out that the strings break just before their ball ends, a trick we read in a steeler forum will help:
Simply thread two ball ends of old strings onto the new string and place them directly in front of the ball end of the new string.
This makes the string path a bit longer and the strings seem less vulnerable. ”
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Jeff Highland

 

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Post  Posted 15 Nov 2020 4:39 pm    
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Larry Carlson wrote:
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I haven't broken any strings yet and have had it for about about a year.
However I'm not an aggressive player and I talk to it gently and hum along while I play.

I found a quote from someone a while back that wrote Duesenberg and asked about string breakage.

They wrote back and stated:
“ If you find out that the strings break just before their ball ends, a trick we read in a steeler forum will help:
Simply thread two ball ends of old strings onto the new string and place them directly in front of the ball end of the new string.
This makes the string path a bit longer and the strings seem less vulnerable. ”


Yep, having the end of the overwrap right at the pivot point causes fatigue there and having a couple of extra ball ends added seem to stop it. Plus using the D'Addario NYXL strings which are tougher.
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Brian Henry

 

Post  Posted 16 Nov 2020 2:47 am    
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That sounds like a manufacturing flaw! One shouldn’t have to modify a brand new instrument to make it perform properly!
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Bill Fisher

 

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Post  Posted 16 Nov 2020 3:36 am    
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Man, that Tom Portman can sure play that thing.

Bill
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