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George Kimery
From: Limestone, TN, USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2020 3:40 pm
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Is there anyway to get just one single slapback on the delay setting? It only has two controls: the tap and the knob. I'm used to 3 controls for delay: the number of delays, the time between the main signal and the delay signal, and the volume between the delay and primary signal. The Katana only has two controls, three if you press the type of delay button at the top. By using the tap, I can change the number of taps with the tap button, but have not been able to get only one repeat. And how do I change the time (milliseconds) between the primary signal and the delay signal. |
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Fred Treece
From: California, USA
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Posted 17 Jul 2020 7:59 am
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The tap button controls the length of time between repeats. The knob controls the strength of the repeat signal as it decays.
To get more to specific settings than that, you have to install Boss Tone Studio on your computer and connect the Katana via usb cable. When you get the settings you want, it can be saved as a preset. |
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George Kimery
From: Limestone, TN, USA
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Posted 17 Jul 2020 8:12 am Katana delay settings question
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Fred, after a lot of messing with it, I have figured out the stuff you mentioned. I am just abandoning the whole thing and going to use my DD-3 delay pedal and Wet Reverb pedal
Thanks for your response. |
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Fred Treece
From: California, USA
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Posted 17 Jul 2020 8:22 am
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You’re welcome, George. The Katana has an fx loop, so that would be good place to insert your delay and verb pedals. |
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Larry Dering
From: Missouri, USA
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Posted 18 Jul 2020 12:42 pm
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George, have you tried the tone studio with a computer? You get way more control of parameters, including a parametric EQ. I know it takes getting used to, but once saved you will likely not need to adjust again. Of course your way will work fine, just more stuff to connect. |
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George Kimery
From: Limestone, TN, USA
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Posted 18 Jul 2020 7:48 pm Katana delay settings question
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Larry, thanks. but getting into the computer end and downloading programs and trying to figure out how to do it all, is something I dont want to even think about. Heck. I hate amps with more than 3 knobs.
I bought a Twin Tone Master and the Katana as backup amps for my Evans. The Tone Master has won out, so I will be selling the Katana at a great price.
Thanks for responding.
George |
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Fred Treece
From: California, USA
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Posted 18 Jul 2020 8:03 pm Re: Katana delay settings question
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George Kimery wrote: |
Larry, thanks. but getting into the computer end and downloading programs and trying to figure out how to do it all, is something I dont want to even think about. Heck. I hate amps with more than 3 knobs.
I bought a Twin Tone Master and the Katana as backup amps for my Evans. The Tone Master has won out, so I will be selling the Katana at a great price.
Thanks for responding.
George |
Now you tell me! I bought new one about 3 mos ago. Loving it. |
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Larry Dering
From: Missouri, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2020 12:12 pm
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Fred, I like the Katana better than the Tonemaster Twin I bought. Once I found the magic sauce it's a winner. The Tonemaster Twin has an acceptable tone and second channel for my Telecaster or it would be going. No effects loop and no speaker out. I understand the dislike for computer tweaking and honestly I got my tone without using one. The interface just gives more options plus storage of presets. Same deal on my Fender Mustang 111 v2. Extremely versatile amps. With the Tonemaster Twin, you either like it or not. Can't do more than the knobs allow. The romance quickly faded away. YMMV |
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Fred Treece
From: California, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2020 12:27 pm
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Couldn’t agree more, Larry. The Katana is perfect for what I was looking for. Indeed, a lot can be done with just the top panel controls. But I also enjoy a good geek n tweak session once in a while. Pretty good bang for buck.
I tried a Fender Mustang once. It was not a good experience. I think there must have been something wrong with that particular store’s model. |
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Larry Dering
From: Missouri, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2020 4:50 pm
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Fred, I agree. I'm guessing we are never totally satisfied with our tones and try to squeeze the last drop out of the gear. I'm certainly an obsessed tone tweaker and can't leave things alone. That's why the saving settings is a must. Then I can get some sleep and compare my tweaking later. The Mustang 111v2 works the same way. When I tire of that amp I drag out another and go at it again. Sometimes I get surprised at the results.
George, you may not care about the technology, but from your posts I see you have already engaged in the tone quest more than once. Same here, guilty as ever. Tone is important to us, and that's a good thing. |
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George Kimery
From: Limestone, TN, USA
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Posted 20 Jul 2020 7:54 am Katana delay settings question
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Larry, after reading that you like the Katana over the Tone Master, I have been going back and forth between them. Now I'm not so sure which I like best. I love the size of the Katana. The only thing I'm sure of is neither one sounds as good as my Evans. I have a Trace Elliott Elf for backup. I may just sell the Katana and the Tone Master. I dont really don't need either one and I don't have to make a decision which one to keep. I don't need 4 amps. |
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Larry Dering
From: Missouri, USA
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Posted 20 Jul 2020 9:52 am
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George, I agree. Since I play 6 string guitar too, I wanted a dual channel amp to fill both duties. I already have 2 older tube twins and they are far too heavy. I bought a Quilter micropro mach2 combo in my 1st attempt. Fine for guitar but suffered steel tone. Then the Tonemaster Twin, same deal for me. I have a Sarno Revelation rack with stewart power amp and 2 15 neo speakers. Great sounding rig but too many pieces. I can carry the Katana 100 combo and my Mustang 111 v2 and cover all I want with either one for both steel and guitar. I'm trying my best to get the Tonemaster Twin in a happy place for both but it requires some extra outboard gear I want to eliminate. I went through the same feelings as you on the Katana and the Mustang until I found the sweet spot. I can say, they don't operate like normal tone controls so it can be a trial at first. If there's anything I can help you with, send me a PM. Most of all, enjoy your gear. We're getting too old to suffer through aggravation. |
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George Kimery
From: Limestone, TN, USA
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Posted 20 Jul 2020 3:31 pm Katana delay settings question
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Larry, I haven't mentioned my outboard gear which for me, are essential for any amp I use.
Guitar > Black Box > Volume Pedal > DD-3 Delay > Wet Reverb > amp |
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Larry Dering
From: Missouri, USA
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Posted 20 Jul 2020 4:33 pm
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Well George, you gotta use what you like and are familiar with. I have a boatload of pedals and gadgets so naturally they get into the rotation here and there. What I like about the Katana and Mustang is the built in effects are top quality. The parameters are adjustable but that requires the computer or smart phone or tablet. You can do decent tweaking with the knobs but not to the fullest content. You have some quality outboard gear so heck yeah, use it. |
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George Kimery
From: Limestone, TN, USA
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Posted 20 Jul 2020 7:52 pm Katana delay settings question
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Larry, I don't know if you are aware of this or not, but I read somewhere that if you are using two different instruments, one in each channel, on the Tone Master, it is best to not have both instruments plugged in at the same time. I dont remember why but it supposedly affects the tone. |
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Ron Hogan
From: Nashville, TN, usa
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Posted 21 Jul 2020 5:00 am Re: Katana delay settings question
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George Kimery wrote: |
Is there anyway to get just one single slapback on the delay setting? It only has two controls: the tap and the knob. I'm used to 3 controls for delay: the number of delays, the time between the main signal and the delay signal, and the volume between the delay and primary signal. The Katana only has two controls, three if you press the type of delay button at the top. By using the tap, I can change the number of taps with the tap button, but have not been able to get only one repeat. And how do I change the time (milliseconds) between the primary signal and the delay signal. |
George, did you download the software upgrade? |
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George Kimery
From: Limestone, TN, USA
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Posted 21 Jul 2020 8:09 am Katana delay settings question
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Ron, I did not download anything. Every time I try to download stuff it never works, so I don't even try anymore. Even if I downloaded successfully, I wouldn't know where to go from there. It doesn't matter. I will stick with my DD-3. It's simple and a lot less trouble. |
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