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Tommy Martin Young


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Post  Posted 18 May 2020 2:11 pm    
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I've got a 10-string guitar in need of new strings and I thought I'd ask if anyone had strung up a 10 or 12-string with 2 overlapping tunings? Yes I know C6/A7 but I'm talking about"smooshing" two fretboards together (in this case E neck and A neck) with bass notes on the bottom and "re-entering" in the middle like this chart.

It gives me a 7-string E9 and a 7-string A9. It makes perfect sense to my tiny squirrel brain which thinks it'd be fun to run up to the IV chord in the same octave without changing positions (actually I was thinking that horn riff punches and the ability to sing and play at the same time might be nice for once). Any downsides other than 2 packs of strings?

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Mike Harris

 

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Post  Posted 19 May 2020 5:00 am     overlapping tunings
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Isn't your E9 tuning an octave lower than normal? How will that affect the feasibility of this setup?
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Tommy Martin Young


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Post  Posted 19 May 2020 5:51 am     Re: overlapping tunings
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Mike Harris wrote:
Isn't your E9 tuning an octave lower than normal? How will that affect the feasibility of this setup?


Mike, the E9 uses 0.34 to 0.17 gauges on strings 10-6
Then (like switching necks) A9 starts with a bass string on string 5 and uses gauges 0.30 to 0.14

I strung it up last night (and actually put the Fifth (B) on String 10) and it is really cool for what I wanted it to do...which was just horn-style chord punches and I can sing without staring at the board.

As an older newbie I spend most of my time feeling like I am learning to dance by following footsteps on the floor - by the end of a practice session, I'm exhausted from getting lost and my brain hurts. So this was just a refreshing change - I can still focus on phrasing and blocking etc... but for 30 short minutes it was nice to not worry about "where the hell am I going next?!" I hope to get there with my standard tunings. Cheers!

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Gene Tani


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Post  Posted 20 May 2020 5:45 am    
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I've thought about stuff like this but I would've had to get gauged roller nut or had a bone/similar nut filed for the fat to thing string transition in the middle. Which isn't a huge problem but same at the bridge.
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Dom Franco


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Post  Posted 20 May 2020 9:28 pm    
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I have done a similar thing on my 13 string lap steels (E on low strings and A on top)

YES you need to file the nut and bridge string slots so the tops of all the strings are level. (When you have a skinny string in between two fatter strings the bar will not make good contact on all strings and you will get a buzz or rattle sound)
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