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Topic: 6 string E9 |
Mark Butcher
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Scotland
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Posted 30 Nov 2006 7:53 am |
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I am returning to the pedal steel again after a few failed attempts to get into it. This time I have removed the bottom two strings and the top two strings as getting lost among the ten strings was my main frustration.
I have been playing C6 lap recently and have played finger picked guitar for decades and I am now finger picking chords and melodies on the 6 string pedal steel with some idea of what I’m doing.
I am now wondering if I could use the redundant RKR to lower the high E string alone to D# and D get a major 7 and a minor 7.
Have any of you been down a similar path? Do you think I’ll go back to ten strings once I get a bit more confident?
I have a Sho Bud S10 with 3 pedals and four knees.
Great forum I visit every day but hardly ever post!
Mark[This message was edited by Mark Butcher on 30 November 2006 at 08:14 AM.] |
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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Mark Butcher
From:
Scotland
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Posted 30 Nov 2006 8:43 am
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Thanks BOB, that looks good. I do find the F# string useful and I'm fearful of messing about underneath my guitar and changing things. (even though my first pedal steel was made by a local man who had never actually seen one)
Does the Pedalcaster exist in the flesh or is it 'virtual'? Have you ever made a chord chart for the copedents? My brain takes so long to work the intervals out I have to draw things out.
Mark |
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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 30 Nov 2006 9:15 am
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| It's still on the drawing board, Mark. |
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Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
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Posted 1 Dec 2006 6:51 am
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I'd say it'd be possible to get a double lower on the hi E, dropping 1/2 step to a feel stop with the lo E, then having them both descend to D, depending on the guage of the lo E
Everything I try to play could be done on a 6 string; but I keep trying to work with the two hi strings. You may return to them, but it sounds like you've found a good way to go for the present. |
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Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 1 Dec 2006 7:00 am
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At one point I had an old Ibanez Artist 6 string electric guitar set up in an E9th tuning with a Bigsby Palm Pedal. I've since moved the PP to another guitar but am looking for another Bigsby to get it back in service. For slide guitar it was great. It was set up like this:
P1 P2
E
B C#
G# A
F#
E
D
...............JH in Va.
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Don't matter who's in Austin (or anywhere else) Ralph Mooney is still the king!!!
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Bill Moore
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Manchester, Michigan
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Posted 1 Dec 2006 11:20 am
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Maybe, after you feel comfortable with using 6 strings, just add a couple more. Seems like it would be a logical, next step, to add the 10th and 2nd strings. Or maybe just one at a time. Adding the 2nd string would give you the D to D# lower. That seems simpler to me, rather then lowering the E string. No need to re-do anything under the guitar, just put the string on.
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my steel guitar web page
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Mark Butcher
From:
Scotland
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Posted 1 Dec 2006 12:04 pm
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I have tried something like the palm pedal idea using Epiphone benders. These are cheap but frankly don’t work to well. They need a low friction bridge (note the wooden one in the pic, a tune o matic roller is better) The tuning Jerry uses looks interesting.
I am surprised that some engineering oriented steeler has not tried a Pedalcaster like guitar. Bicycle brake hydraulics would offer a way to separate the pedals from the guitar in a flexible way. Nowadays stepper motors and even pneumatics are available off the shelf and I’m sure there are people out there with the skills to use them.
OK maybe I just need to apply myself to learn the skill to use my Sho Bud!
Mark
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Sho-Bud Pro 1
Many stringed things.
www.marksmandolins.com
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Darryl Hattenhauer
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Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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Posted 1 Dec 2006 11:48 pm
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bOb, thanks, very interesting.
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