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Topic: Tuning with 11ths |
Allan Revich
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Victoria, BC
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Posted 27 Mar 2020 9:20 am |
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Came across this old thread and thought I’d refresh it.
Since so many of us are self-isolating, this might be a good chance for Steelers to play around with this versatile tuning. The first message in the thread is a great intro.
https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=153065
Here is just a taste....
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B11th Tuning - Chord Grips, Open Strings
(no slants, no string "skips")
Tuning, low to high: B-D#-F#-A-C#-E
B Major 1-3-5
A Major 1-3-5
F# Min. 1-b3-5
D# dim 1-b3-b5
A6th 1-3-5-6
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There’s more at the link.
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Current Tunings:
6 String | G – G B D G B D
7 String | G6 – e G B D G B D (re-entrant)
https://papadafoe.com/lap-steel-tuning-database |
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Allan Revich
From:
Victoria, BC
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Posted 27 Mar 2020 1:53 pm G9 Anyone?
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After spending a few hours playing around with different flavours of 11th tunings, I ended up at G9.
GBDFAD
I found it a lot easier to wrap my head around, it has majors, minors, 7ths, AND it’s only a couple tuning knob twists away from standard Dobro tuning.
Still curious as to why 11th tunings are not more common.
How much longer before the combination of “house arrest†(covid self-isolation) and lap steel tuning games drive me completely insane?
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Current Tunings:
6 String | G – G B D G B D
7 String | G6 – e G B D G B D (re-entrant)
https://papadafoe.com/lap-steel-tuning-database |
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Nic Neufeld
From:
Kansas City, Missouri
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Posted 28 Mar 2020 7:34 am
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My take on B11, in particular, is that it's a split tuning...A6 on top and B9 on the bottom. At least that's the typical way it is used most often. Yes, technically it is a B11 all the way up, it's just that the 11th is less commonly used than the 9th chord in most arrangements (the famous counterexample would be the full bar in Sand at the first fret playing C11, resolving the 11th to the third by pulling the bar off the first string to make it E).
It's a lovely and versatile tuning and my second favorite after C13. I know a few slants in it but I'm not that fluent in it. High G C6 players or A6 players should feel quite at home with the top four strings for melody playing. In fact, let me think...for high G C6...high to low:
G - E - C - A - G - E
G - E - C - A - F# - D
Just detune your bottom two strings and hey presto, D11 tuning, the equivalent of B11 just transposed.
Your tuning, lets see thats 1-3-5-b7-9-5. You could have the same as B11 by flattening your high D to C, of course. Then you'd have G9/G11 on the lower strings and F6 on top.
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Mike Harris
From:
Texas, USA
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Posted 28 Mar 2020 6:15 pm B11 tuning
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| I have an 8-string variation of the B11 tuning which I love for comping 3, 4, and 5 voice chords but it hurts my brain to try to play melodies with it. I go back to A13 for that. |
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Allan Revich
From:
Victoria, BC
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Posted 29 Mar 2020 11:54 am
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| Nic Neufeld wrote: |
| ...Your tuning, lets see thats 1-3-5-b7-9-5. You could have the same as B11 by flattening your high D to C, of course. Then you'd have G9/G11 on the lower strings and F6 on top. |
Nic, that is how I ended up with my G9 tuning. I was trying different 11th tunings and landed on G11 GBDFAC but I found it difficult to keep straight all of the possibilities of the 11th tuning. Bumping the C back up to D for GBDFAD gave me G major, G7, and D minor. Basically every combo necessary for blues and rock. Plus I still get 9th chords and minor 6th chords for added flavor.[/b]
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Current Tunings:
6 String | G – G B D G B D
7 String | G6 – e G B D G B D (re-entrant)
https://papadafoe.com/lap-steel-tuning-database |
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