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Topic: Need Some MSA S12 underside pics. restoring one. |
Bill Hatcher
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Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 4 Mar 2020 11:19 am |
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years ago i purchased an MSA S12 project. reese sent me an email saying it was made mid 1981. triple raise/lower. i have a lot of good parts for it and still looking for more, but i need some close up pics of the underside of some MSA S12 guitars from that era. if you have one of these and it would not be too much trouble, please post a few pics so i can see some set ups and then figure out what i need to do. especially need a pic of the MSA half stop that they used and how it was set up. many many thanks for the help! and if you have any spare parts to sell let me know. i would even be up to buy a parts/project guitar if anyone has one to get rid of. heres all the parts and the guitar. wish me luck.
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Lynn Stafford
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Ridgefield, WA USA
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Posted 5 Mar 2020 9:30 am MSA S-12 Under Carriage Photos
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Hi Bill,
I've worked on more than a few 70s MSA guitars and happen to have some photos of a typical S-12 under carriage.
Here are some photos of a 70s left-handed S-10 MSA 10x5 that has a half-stop device installed on it.
I reworked it for a local player a few years ago, (adding seven pedals to the existing three).
For your convenience, here is a right-hand version of the photo showing the device.
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Lee Baucum
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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 5 Mar 2020 10:24 am Re: Need Some MSA S12 underside pics. restoring one.
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Is that ball peen (pein) hammer for some of the more intricate assembly work?
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Bill Hatcher
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Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 5 Mar 2020 10:37 am Re: MSA S-12 Under Carriage Photos
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| Lynn Stafford wrote: |
Hi Bill,
I've worked on more than a few 70s MSA guitars and happen to have some photos of a typical S-12 under carriage.
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lyn...many many thanks! i hope this one comes out as nice as the pics of your work. 10 pedals!
may i ask you what your procedure is to start to re rod one...do you start farthest away from the changer or closest or does it matter?
also what is the dynamics of higher up on the bell crank or lower on the bell crank? are there certain pulls that should always be higher or lower. im talking about the four holes in the crank where the rod goes through. it would seem that each hole moves differently as the axle turns and therefore will translate into pedal/knee lever distance and also the exertion of force to complete the change.
can you complete all the rodding on the lower bellcrank holes first and then move to the upper holes next?
i have done plenty of changing pulls on MSA guitars, but this will be the first time i have started from scratch on installing all the delrin bushings and axles and basically everything else.
i have enough parts for 10 pedals and the standard 4 knee levers and also some verticals. is there a method to add more than 2 verticals or more than 4 knees? this guitar has a 3 up 3 down changer, so there is a lot of potential. i am going to do a totally different set up on it.....dont try to talk me out of it! lol
basically it will be ...lower 6 strings will be 6 strings of E9 (usually, 6 string pedal guitars use low to high E, F#,G#, B, E, G# of a 10 string E9 tuning) and the top 6 will be my own standard guitar tuning of EADGBE that i use on a single 6 pedal steel i have. by fabricating some gauged rollers i can make the inner strings flat when the tuning starts over with larger strings in the center so the bar will lay nice and flat. i bought this guitar for a couple hundred bucks. its a lacquer guitar that has been stripped and repainted royal blue and the finish is not too bad even if royal blue, so the value of it will never be much as opposed to an original example. i need a fret board for it also as the original msa board is not on it. thanks for your advice.
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Bill Hatcher
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Posted 5 Mar 2020 10:38 am Re: Need Some MSA S12 underside pics. restoring one.
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Is that ball peen (pein) hammer for some of the more intricate assembly work?
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opposite of BFH.... |
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Lee Baucum
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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 5 Mar 2020 3:56 pm Re: Need Some MSA S12 underside pics. restoring one.
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| Bill Hatcher wrote: |
Is that ball peen (pein) hammer for some of the more intricate assembly work?
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opposite of BFH....[/quote]
BFH! I have one out in the garage. I inherited it from my Dad, who inherited it from his Dad. His Dad died in 1954. A vintage BFH. Probably highly collectable! |
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