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Gil Berry

 

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Westminster, CA, USA
Post  Posted 12 Oct 2006 6:46 pm    
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I've always had trouble with a raise knee. Seems like it's not to high (thus in the way) or it's too high and I can't hit it easily. I'm wondering if maybe the forward knee might be easier than a vertical. How about, you guys who have (or had) a forward knee - is it easy to use? How complicated is the linkage?
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David Wren


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Placerville, California, USA
Post  Posted 17 Oct 2006 11:17 am    
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I built one for my '70 MSA, and it was VERY easy to use..... however it only raised one string, one fret.

I've shared emails with Jim Palencar, and I think he will be working on one as well, so you may want to stop by his Steel Guitar of North County store, I see you are close.

Hope more folks share their experiences with a forward lever. I know Emmons offered it at one time, if not currently.




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Gil Berry

 

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Westminster, CA, USA
Post  Posted 17 Oct 2006 4:14 pm    
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Thanks, Dave. I'm think that would be an ideal place to place the 4th string E- F# raise (all by itself). Should be easy to hit with A&B depressed. I don't like the AB - BC change 'cuz you can hear the wobble in string 5 when the change is made...anyway, thanks again. I need to make it down to see Jim one of these days, anyway.
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Jim Palenscar

 

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Oceanside, Calif, USA
Post  Posted 17 Oct 2006 10:52 pm    
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I have been working on a forward lever for my MSA Legend and it is a great addition and works out fine- like David's- only raising one string one half step- although I doubt that there would be a problem raising the 4th string a full tone but it is not designed to pull too many strings as it does not utilize a cross-shaft. However- it is my opinion that raising the 4th string- while a nice change all by itself with and without the A and B pedals engaged, it is still not a good substitute for the BC combination as it is too difficult to use both AB and a lever simultaneously as a substitute for typical quick BC phrasing- just not as "plaintive"~~
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Gil Berry

 

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Westminster, CA, USA
Post  Posted 18 Oct 2006 4:52 am    
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I agree that A+B+a knee to raise 4th string a whole tone is not a good substitute for the BC raise, Jim, because it is quite difficult to get the pedals and knee to come out together quickly, but the E-F# knee IN ADDITION to the C pedal is nice, like you said, with AB already depressed or for just the E-F# change alone.

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Jim Eaton


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Santa Susana, Ca
Post  Posted 18 Oct 2006 7:33 am    
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Jim set up my ZUM SD-12 Exte9th with E-F# on LKV in addition to the standard C pedal and for my style of playing it great to have that change both ways.
JE:-)>

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John McClung


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Olympia WA, USA
Post  Posted 18 Oct 2006 11:32 pm    
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I've wanted E>F# on a KL for a while. Only place left on my setup would be the right knee. Is RKL/front a little easier to use than RKR/front, especially with the volume pedal?



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Per Berner


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Skovde, Sweden
Post  Posted 19 Oct 2006 1:38 am    
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A FORWARD moving knee lever? How on earth do you operate that while sitting down? Unless your seat is on wheels?

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Lee Baucum


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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
Post  Posted 19 Oct 2006 4:35 am    
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Per - Here in the U.S. we have several surgeons performing extendable knee operations. I'm suprised no one in Sweden is doing it.

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Per Berner


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Skovde, Sweden
Post  Posted 19 Oct 2006 5:31 am    
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Lee, our top surgeons have their hands full with the really important medical stuff, like augmenting mammaries on airhead blondes. But my 93 year old uncle's got a wonky knee he can bend in any direction and pop out of its socket. Maybe I'll let him show me

Seriously, I can't imagine how it can be done while sitting down - at least not with any degree of precision.

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