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Topic: 1952 Fender Triple 8 Custom T8 - Price Reduced |
Donald Vincent
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Posted 9 Dec 2019 1:16 pm |
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Greetings All ! INFO UPDATED on Jan 31 so scroll all the way down to see the latest. Thx! 1952 based on the pot date, pickups and the scale length 22 1/2". Nothing under the tuner pans. Serial # 9293 on the jack plate which is a little later than one listed on here sometime back as a '51 with Ser# 92xx. FWIW. Corrections Welcome!
Please scroll down to see some info from a repairman who worked on this guitar back in 2004. The repairs and wiring mods are described there The tuners and switches work as expected, pots are great and not scratchy. One tuner stem is bent. Finish has some expected wear but overall this guitar appears to have been well cared for. Sounds Fantastic! Non-original custom-made case.
Will ship at buyer's expense, but local pick-up or delivery by me within reasonable distance from Buffalo is preferred and free.
NEW PRICE $1150 OBO Questions welcome and will be answered here. PM or I can be reached at 716-704-5621
picture added 1/31 - note the dent just to the right of the logo.
Last edited by Donald Vincent on 31 Jan 2020 6:45 am; edited 8 times in total |
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Drew Howard
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Posted 9 Dec 2019 1:25 pm
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| This a Fender Custom, prior to the Stringmaster. |
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Cartwright Thompson
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Posted 9 Dec 2019 1:52 pm
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| I like the wire nut switch tip! |
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Donald Vincent
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Buffalo, New York, USA
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Posted 9 Dec 2019 1:56 pm
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| Drew Howard wrote: |
| This a Fender Custom, prior to the Stringmaster. |
Thank you for the correction. |
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Donald Vincent
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Buffalo, New York, USA
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Posted 9 Dec 2019 2:09 pm
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| Drew Howard wrote: |
| This a Fender Custom, prior to the Stringmaster. |
Does that make it pre-53? |
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Donald Vincent
From:
Buffalo, New York, USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2019 12:22 pm New Price!!
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| I believe it's a 1952 based on the pot date. Added a couple of new pictures (see top post) and reduced the price. Come on! |
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Mark Helm
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Tennessee, USA
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Posted 15 Dec 2019 2:43 pm Pics of pickups?
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Can you post some pictures of the pickups that show what the space the strings run through looks like? The wax paper bobbins tend to deteriorate and that space for the strings to go through shrinks/collapses. It also can affect the performance of the pickups.
The problem with the trap pick-ups, especially on the older ones is, to quote Rick Aiello, "... Is bobbin failure. They are waxed paper bobbins ... That will implode if not structurally sound."
Have you tested the output on those babies? Are all three of them relatively even, volume wise?
Thanks!
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Remington Steelmaster S8 w/ custom Steeltronics pickup. Vox MV-50 amplifier + an 1940's Oahu cab w/ 8" American Vintage speaker. J. Mascis Fender Squire Jazzmaster, Hofner Club bass, Ibanez AVN4-VMS Artwood Vintage Series Concert Size Acoustic Guitar. 1920s/30s Supertone Hawaiian-themed parlor guitar. Silvertone parlor guitar. |
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2019 8:34 am
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Did the Custom ever come with different scale lengths?
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Mark Helm
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Tennessee, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2019 8:46 am Nope!
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Hey, Erv!
The early Fender non-pedal steels with boxcar, then trap pickups only came in the 22.5”. The Stringmasters that succeeded the Dual Pros and Customs came in 3 different scale lengths: 22.5”,, 24.5”, and the bomber, 26”. Interestingly, the single neck models were called Fender Customs and only came in the 22.5” scale.
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Remington Steelmaster S8 w/ custom Steeltronics pickup. Vox MV-50 amplifier + an 1940's Oahu cab w/ 8" American Vintage speaker. J. Mascis Fender Squire Jazzmaster, Hofner Club bass, Ibanez AVN4-VMS Artwood Vintage Series Concert Size Acoustic Guitar. 1920s/30s Supertone Hawaiian-themed parlor guitar. Silvertone parlor guitar. |
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2019 8:57 am
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Mark,
Yes, I know about the Stringmasters, but I wasn't sure about the Customs. 
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Mark Helm
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Tennessee, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2019 9:01 am Yup!
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I figured you did, Erv (as I recall, you’ve had a few Stringmasters!😊 ). Just thought I’d be thorough... you know, for the historical record 🤣).
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Remington Steelmaster S8 w/ custom Steeltronics pickup. Vox MV-50 amplifier + an 1940's Oahu cab w/ 8" American Vintage speaker. J. Mascis Fender Squire Jazzmaster, Hofner Club bass, Ibanez AVN4-VMS Artwood Vintage Series Concert Size Acoustic Guitar. 1920s/30s Supertone Hawaiian-themed parlor guitar. Silvertone parlor guitar. |
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Mark Helm
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Tennessee, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2019 9:01 am Yup!
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I figured you did, Erv (as I recall, you’ve had a few Stringmasters!😊 ). Just thought I’d be thorough... you know, for the historical record 🤣.
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Remington Steelmaster S8 w/ custom Steeltronics pickup. Vox MV-50 amplifier + an 1940's Oahu cab w/ 8" American Vintage speaker. J. Mascis Fender Squire Jazzmaster, Hofner Club bass, Ibanez AVN4-VMS Artwood Vintage Series Concert Size Acoustic Guitar. 1920s/30s Supertone Hawaiian-themed parlor guitar. Silvertone parlor guitar. |
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Donald Vincent
From:
Buffalo, New York, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2019 9:51 am Re: Pics of pickups?
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| Mark Helm wrote: |
Can you post some pictures of the pickups that show what the space the strings run through looks like? The wax paper bobbins tend to deteriorate and that space for the strings to go through shrinks/collapses. It also can affect the performance of the pickups.
The problem with the trap pick-ups, especially on the older ones is, to quote Rick Aiello, "... Is bobbin failure. They are waxed paper bobbins ... That will implode if not structurally sound."
Have you tested the output on those babies? Are all three of them relatively even, volume wise?
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Hi Mark - I did not put a meter on them, but when I tested out the switches and such, they seemed to be consistent. Here's some addl pics.
Don
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Mark Helm
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Tennessee, USA
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Posted 20 Dec 2019 4:47 pm pic at bottom...
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Looks like the highest string is actually touching the waxpaper bobbin. Am I correct there? Can you see it? Maybe just clarity that with another pic, sorry. Thanks.
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Remington Steelmaster S8 w/ custom Steeltronics pickup. Vox MV-50 amplifier + an 1940's Oahu cab w/ 8" American Vintage speaker. J. Mascis Fender Squire Jazzmaster, Hofner Club bass, Ibanez AVN4-VMS Artwood Vintage Series Concert Size Acoustic Guitar. 1920s/30s Supertone Hawaiian-themed parlor guitar. Silvertone parlor guitar. |
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Donald Vincent
From:
Buffalo, New York, USA
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Posted 22 Dec 2019 12:36 pm Re: Pics of pickups?
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| Mark Helm wrote: |
Can you post some pictures of the pickups that show what the space the strings run through looks like? The wax paper bobbins tend to deteriorate and that space for the strings to go through shrinks/collapses. It also can affect the performance of the pickups.
The problem with the trap pick-ups, especially on the older ones is, to quote Rick Aiello, "... Is bobbin failure. They are waxed paper bobbins ... That will implode if not structurally sound."
Have you tested the output on those babies? Are all three of them relatively even, volume wise?
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Pickup readings:
Front 13.91
Middle 14.37
Back 13.48
Here's a picture of the back of the back neck pickup. This looks non-original to me so perhaps the pickups were re-worked at some point.
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Mark Helm
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Posted 22 Dec 2019 8:47 pm Yup!
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These have almost certainly been worked on--which is usually good! I've seen VERY few of these that didn't need serious servicing, usually a pickup re-wind because of the bobbin collapse. Hard to tell from the pics, but it looks like at least one of these was rewound--I can only see the old wax paper bobbin visible in one of the pick-up pics (the one I asked about the string just touching the wax paper?). Like I said--hard to tell from the pics.
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Remington Steelmaster S8 w/ custom Steeltronics pickup. Vox MV-50 amplifier + an 1940's Oahu cab w/ 8" American Vintage speaker. J. Mascis Fender Squire Jazzmaster, Hofner Club bass, Ibanez AVN4-VMS Artwood Vintage Series Concert Size Acoustic Guitar. 1920s/30s Supertone Hawaiian-themed parlor guitar. Silvertone parlor guitar. |
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Donald Vincent
From:
Buffalo, New York, USA
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Posted 26 Dec 2019 5:58 am more pics
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Here are a couple more shots of that front pickup you mentioned. It looks like in the first set of pics, the strings weren't up to tension and the picture isn't great. After further review, I can assure you that the strings are all clear and I don't see anything interfering under any of the strings. Hopefully these are a little clearer.
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Donald Vincent
From:
Buffalo, New York, USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2020 9:11 am
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Donald Vincent
From:
Buffalo, New York, USA
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Posted 16 Jan 2020 5:01 am
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| ttt new price |
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Donald Vincent
From:
Buffalo, New York, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2020 11:12 am
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| still available |
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Blake Hawkins
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Florida
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Posted 25 Jan 2020 1:20 pm
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I know that guitar. It belonged to a player from Buffalo who lived in Tampa a few years before he passed.
I worked on it in 2004 making a change in the wiring and
having the center pickup rewound. Send me a PM and I will e mail you the data and wiring diagrams both the original and the modification plus the reasons. You can also call me and
I'll be glad to discuss it with you. |
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Blake Hawkins
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Florida
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Posted 25 Jan 2020 1:40 pm
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I know that guitar. It belonged to a player from Buffalo who lived in Tampa a few years before he passed.
I worked on it in 2004 making a change in the wiring and
having the center pickup rewound. Send me a PM and I will e mail you the data and wiring diagrams both the original and the modification plus the reasons. You can also call me and
I'll be glad to discuss it with you. |
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Donald Vincent
From:
Buffalo, New York, USA
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Posted 27 Jan 2020 6:07 am Thanks, Blake!
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I spoke with Blake Hawkins a couple of times over the weekend. He is a forum member and he knew and played with this guitar's previous owner, Jim Beckett, and had done some work on it in 2004. Here's the highlights...
He reworked some grounding and also modified the original factory wiring to improve the tone response when the vol knob is turned down. This "feature" is present on all the early Customs that he has worked on. His diagrams of the original wiring and the modification (pretty simple...move one wire) will be included. He also replaced the .05 Tone cap with a modern equivalent, since the orig had started to go.
At some later date, the middle pickup failed. Blake removed it and had it rewound by Jerry Wallace, also a member on here. Blake recalled that it measured 12K when rewound, while the top & bottom were OK at around 11K. My measurements above were via a guitar cable with PU's in the guitar which would account for my measurements being a bit higher. |
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Donald Vincent
From:
Buffalo, New York, USA
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Posted 22 Feb 2020 6:07 am still available...make me an offer...
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Donald Vincent
From:
Buffalo, New York, USA
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Posted 16 Apr 2020 8:06 am no longer available please close
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| no longer available please close. thx. |
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