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Gene H. Brown

 

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Whitehorse, Yukon Territory, Canada
Post  Posted 11 Sep 2006 8:12 pm    
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I don't know if any of you guys out there have heard Lloyd do a song called "You Don't Have Very Far To Go" or not, but in the second verse at about the fourth or fifth beat in the beginning of that verse he does a beautiful lick and I am trying to figure out whether he's lowering a string at half steps or raising a string at half steps, it sounds like it's something below the sixth string, maybe the 7th, 8th or 9th string. Anyone out there know what lick I'm talking about and if you do, could you please help me out on this? I can get it close, but it just doesn't sound like I am using the right string. It's a great lick as usual by Lloyd, he's the man!!!
Thanks in advance for any help, it would sure be appreciated.
Gene
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Ricky Davis


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Bertram, Texas USA
Post  Posted 12 Sep 2006 9:06 am    
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So do you have a clip of the song??Send it to me Gene and I'll give it a listen.
Ricky

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Dave Burr

 

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League City, TX
Post  Posted 12 Sep 2006 11:33 am    
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Gene, If you're talking about the cut off of the new Grascals CD, I've heard it and was blown away by Lloyds soulful playing. I'm thinking there were slants involved. That style of playing in an acoustic setting or sparse instrumentation just sets me on fire! And, it doesn't get much better than when it's Lloyd lighting the match!!

I've always loved Lloyd's inventiveness with fills (along with everything else)... and everytime I think it can't get any better, he pulls out something else. It seems the notes just ooze out of his soul.

I would love to see him do another video!!

Respectfully,
Dave Burr

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Rob Segal

 

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New York NY
Post  Posted 12 Sep 2006 12:03 pm    
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I believe the 'lick' you're interested in is played over a 1-to-4 chord change, extending for 2 bars. It is played entirely on strings 5 and 8, using the A pedal and the E (half-tone lower) and F half-tone raise) levers. Both strings 5 and 8 are picked or sustaining the entire time. The version I know is done in the key of C, and it starts out in the C chord at the 11th fret with A and F. I list each position below in the Jeff Newman manner (a small tribute to Jeff who helped me a lot). Time is not indicated by if you know the music you'll figure it out. The second bar contains one set of 3 moves which take place over one beat, and I've called them out by indenting them. Hope this helps,

Rob Segal

fret--pedal/lever

1st bar, in C:
11--A/F
10--A
9--A/E
9--A

2nd bar, in C:
9--A/F
8--A
___6--A
___6--
___5--F
3--A

3rd bar, in F:
4--A/F
6--A
8--A

[This message was edited by Rob Segal on 12 September 2006 at 01:04 PM.]

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Gene H. Brown

 

From:
Whitehorse, Yukon Territory, Canada
Post  Posted 12 Sep 2006 2:24 pm    
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Thanks for the relies fellows.
Ricky Davis, I sent you the clip to listen too and Thanks for your help.

Dave Burr,
Thanks for your help also, but I think we might be talking about two different things, as I have not heard the Grascals, I can't say for sure, but thank you anyway.

Rob Segal,

I think you might be right on the money, this sure sounds in my head like what I want to hear. I already tried the 5th and 8th strings, but I was lowering from an E to an Eb to a D and back up again and it sounded close but not totally right.
Let me see if I am understanding you for sure.
You are saying to play the 5th and 8th strings together, raising the 8th string to an F, then lowering to an E then an Eb and back up again to the F, is this correct? I will give this a try for sure and Thank You very much, I just love this lick and it can be used in so many other places in other songs also.
Thanks to all of you
Gene


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Rob Segal

 

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New York NY
Post  Posted 12 Sep 2006 3:18 pm    
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"......You are saying to play the 5th and 8th strings together, raising the 8th string to an F, then lowering to an E then an Eb and back up again to the F, is this correct?"

Yes, that's it, but also take note of the fret changes that I have indicated. Most of the combinations are played at successively lower frets, though not all.....just literally play it through the way I wrote it down and it will come together.

Rob
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