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Michael Douchette
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Posted 5 Jul 2006 5:14 pm |
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Ok, so I don't play C6; we all know that. I carry around the extra weight on my old P/P Emmons because I like the exercise... yeah, right. So... if I was going to change the back neck to, say, a baritone E9 type tuning, whatever that is... should I use the same three floor pedals for the basic changes, or should I make use of those extra danglers to the right to not put additional tension on the first three?
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Jon Light
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Saugerties, NY
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Posted 5 Jul 2006 5:21 pm
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| You will definitely feel the extra load on the pedals if you double up on the first three. Depending on the guitar, it might not be unacceptable but I can't imagine that you would want to take an instrument that is your 'gamer', that fits you to a T and make it feel different. I went from 3 pedal S-10 to 7 pedal U-12 and while it takes some getting used to, getting over to those extra appendages, it's not like trying to sign my name with my left hand or anything. |
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Duane Reese
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Posted 5 Jul 2006 5:37 pm
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Well, here's a couple of ideas:
- You could start playing that C6th - you might wind up loving it if you get to use it doing some really classy stuff with it, or you could...
- Trade it in for a single neck. If you like push-pulls, I noticed Billy Cooper has one for sale with a single body (don't know if he'd trade but you could sell yours). I was looking at that but wound up getting a Fessy instead.
I too know how bad it is lugging that thing around when you don't use it. I like playing C6th but both outfits I work in don't have any that require it (well, okay one song but I can use four picks and get the job done - it's Walking After Midnight - not too difficult).
I'd discourage the idea of turning your back neck to another kind of E9th because I just don't see you getting as much bang for your buck, when an S-10 or SD-10 is really what you should seek out if you don't play the C6th. Hey plus - you could sell your D-10 for more and get some extra cash! |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 5 Jul 2006 5:53 pm
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Use it or lose it (the 2nd neck, that is).
I agree with Duane...learn to play that C6th! A baritone E9th tuning will give you a different sound, that you can maybe use a couple of times a night. Problem is, it won't add much, if anything, to your playing skills. The C6th, and the theory and different chords and voicings, would add substantially to your horizons. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 6 Jul 2006 12:09 am
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me, like many here, my gig with the band has me on E9th 99.99999% of the time.
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that doesn't mean I "CANT" play on the lower ten should the moment arrive.
We play some SRV tunes every now and then, and yep, I may take a ride and play off the lower ten.
And let's not forget the Swing tunes...
Regardless, what's wrong with having it there for personal fun, adventure, enjoyment, education ..etc...?
remember the old phrase..
"It's worth it's weight in gold "...
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 6 Jul 2006 12:13 am
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me, like many here, my gig with the band has me on E9th 99.99999% of the time.
but..
that doesn't mean I "CANT" play on the lower ten should the moment arrive.
We play some SRV tunes every now and then, and yep, I may take a ride and play off the lower ten.
And let's not forget the Swing tunes...
Regardless, what's wrong with having it there for personal fun, adventure, enjoyment, education ..etc...?
remember the old phrase..
"It's worth it's weight in gold "...
try tuning the 9th string to E rather than F...it opens up and entirely new open string useage, especially in the E rock tunes or blues tunes.
Remember, the Tele dudes take the E down to D for many tunes, so , we can take the F down to E of we want. No rules.
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Ray Minich
From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 6 Jul 2006 7:03 am
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| You could start playing that C6th - you might wind up loving it if you get to use it doing some really classy stuff with it, or you could... |
I wanna do it 'cause it's there (you know, like Mount Everest...)
[This message was edited by Ray Minich on 06 July 2006 at 08:03 AM.] |
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Mike Vallandigham
From:
Martinez, CA
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Posted 6 Jul 2006 7:14 am
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I started out only on e9 on my D-10, using a towel to convert the C6 neck into an armrest. LOL.
Now, I think I enjoy the back neck more than the front, it is definately more satisfying to learn a song using all those fat chords and strums, plus, I love the sounds the C6 pedals make, esp P7 and p8.
DUDE, learn how to play that badboy!
If I may, I'd like to suggest Herby Wallace's instruction courses, as well as Buddy Emmons courses. C'mon, just do it, you'll be glad u did. |
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Mike Archer
From:
church hill tn
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Posted 6 Jul 2006 4:27 pm
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because of back trouble i went to a emmons
sd10.....wow i went back to d10 soon after
i found that after playing d10s for 20+
years the sd10 just didnt work for me
and it didnt feel right
i do play c6 and missed it alot..
if you never want to play c6 mabe sd10
might work nice for you....or as others have said...
lose the back neck[This message was edited by Mike Archer on 06 July 2006 at 05:29 PM.] |
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Billy Carr
From:
Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)
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Posted 6 Jul 2006 4:40 pm
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| S-12U. It's all there and you can play anything from Byrd to Tharpe! |
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A. J. Schobert
From:
Cincinnati, Ohio,
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Posted 6 Jul 2006 7:03 pm
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| Mike I bought my new PSG D10 with no idea how to play the c6th neck, I am learning it takes a while and I wish it would hury up. But you live in an area where you can get lessons locally I would score some lessons and become more familiar with it before changing. take care. |
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A. J. Schobert
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Cincinnati, Ohio,
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Posted 6 Jul 2006 7:12 pm
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| Mike after I looked in steel players you are a seasoned player I'm sorry I now think you may know what is best for you. |
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Michael Douchette
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Gallatin, TN (deceased)
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Posted 6 Jul 2006 7:39 pm
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A.J., thanks. I appreciate it. I know, it's been quite a while since some "things" happened, and I haven't been hanging out here. I guess I'm back, hopefully to stay, and I know there's an awful lot of folks that have no idea about who I am or what I've done. Not that matters a hoot; that and $.75 will buy a cup of coffee at McDonald's. I'm open ears, though, to anybody's ideas, thoughts and suggestions. If a person ever thinks he knows everything there is to know... well, he's headed for trouble.
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A. J. Schobert
From:
Cincinnati, Ohio,
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Posted 6 Jul 2006 8:03 pm
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| the srongest oak in the forest is not the one protected from the sun , its the one that stands in the open compelled to struggle for its existence against the winds, rains, & scorching sun, effort only fully releases its rewards after a person refuses to quiet |
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 6 Jul 2006 9:40 pm
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I saw Mike play an 'artist showcase' at '12th & Porter' a few years back. He was playing a blonde Sho-Bud very, very well, and getting a distinctive tone, too!
I wonder if you remember that one, Mike? I was there with Ray Flacke - he was also in the band.
Mike's terrific!
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Michael Douchette
From:
Gallatin, TN (deceased)
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Posted 7 Jul 2006 12:37 am
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I remember the showcase, and that ol' Sho-Bud... "Blondie." That was the sweetest guitar... wish I still had it.
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Hook Moore
From:
South Charleston,West Virginia
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Posted 7 Jul 2006 3:22 am
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I use the C6th neck alot! Glad your back Mike 
Hook
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Duane Noom
From:
Whitehall, Michigan, USA
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Posted 7 Jul 2006 3:28 am
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I now have my bottom neck tuned to B-9th and my 4 and 5 pedals to A & B pedals. I've had this for about a year and thought it would be great. I very seldom use it and when I do I don't like the sound. I am thinking of going U-12 or learning to play
C-6th. I hope this old dog can still learn new tricks. |
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Michael Douchette
From:
Gallatin, TN (deceased)
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Posted 7 Jul 2006 4:01 am
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One of our members, Alonzo Walker, e-mailed me a revised C6 tuning that sounds interesting; I think I might experiment with it.
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David L. Donald
From:
Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 7 Jul 2006 8:32 am
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| Learn to play the C6 |
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Al Marcus
From:
Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
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