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Ken Williams


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Post  Posted 8 Jun 2006 9:52 pm    
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On E9th, you tune the 4th and 8th strings open to perfect unison. Press the A and B pedals and tune the 6th string to a perfect 4th(or 5th, depending on how you look at it) in relation to the 4th and 8th strings. Then move to the 10th fret and adjust the bar so the 4th and 8th string are in perfect unison. Then play the 6th string in the middle with the B pedal still down, and it is a reasonable amount sharp in relation to the 4th and 8th strings.
Probably is a simple explaination, but what causes this?
Every steel I've ever sat down to does this, some worse than others. Of course I haven't tried every steel made.
If you move back toward the nut, say at the 7th fret, it gets better but the 6th string is still slightly sharp in relation to the 4th and 8th strings.
When tuning the B pedal pull, I tune this pull slightly flat to compensate for this. Just can't stand the beats produced when 4th and 6th strings are played together at about the 10th fret or so.
It does it with new strings or old strings, although it seems to be worse with older strings
By the way, I use a .022 plain on the 6th string.

Ken
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Russ Wever

 

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Kansas City
Post  Posted 8 Jun 2006 10:38 pm    
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On E9th, you tune the 4th and 8th strings open to perfect unison.


On E9th, the 4th and 8th (E) strings should be tuned an octave apart rather than unison.

As for the 6th string 'acting up', keep in mind that that large of a guage in a plain (not wound) string is very susceptible to bar pressure and temperature changes.

I've toyed with the idea of installing a changer-finger that has it's axle-hole purposely drilled slightly off-center so that the 'top-dead-center' is causing the scale-lentht of the 6th-string to be ever-so-slightly longer than the rest of the strings to help alleviate that problem.
Somewhat similar as the 'compensated bridge' is on 'under-arm guitars'.

~Russ

[This message was edited by Russ Wever on 08 June 2006 at 11:49 PM.]

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