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Topic: Found Stolen Sho Bud D-10 (PICTURES) |
Duane Keiper
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Niagara Falls, New York
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Posted 1 Apr 2013 4:35 pm |
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I purchased a Sho Bud D-10. When I got it home I found that the serial numbers had been ground out. I called where I purchased it from to let him know why I was bringing it back. I was told it was purchased on Ebay years ago and it was a 1970. I took about 20 pictures and returned the guitar. Let me know if you maybe the owner and I can give you phone numbers to follow up with. I have more pic's than posted.
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Bud Angelotti
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Larryville, NJ, USA
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Posted 1 Apr 2013 8:25 pm
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Duane - You sir, are at one with integrity.
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Marco Schouten
From:
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Posted 2 Apr 2013 7:25 am
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Maybe it wasn't stolen and the original owner tried to cover up his abuse of the guitar 
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 2 Apr 2013 3:35 pm
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what would be proper protocol for this?
when is it no longer stolen (if it even was) ..as opposed to lost or forgotten? if you have no one to connect it to??
how would someone proove it was, indeed, their old steel? |
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Fred Layman
From:
Springfield, Missouri USA
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Posted 2 Apr 2013 5:16 pm Sho-Bud tSeel
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| It has the charistics of the 70's Sho-Bud, ie. rack changers and brass rod tuners. My first steel was this model and color. |
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Ron Scott
From:
Michigan
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Posted 3 Apr 2013 7:29 am
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My first sho-bud looked just like that but it is in Canada someplace.There were lots of them built in the 70's. Ron
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Jim Smith
From:
Midlothian, TX, USA
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Posted 7 Apr 2013 1:05 pm
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| I bet CSI could still retrieve the ground off serial numbers with their gadgets. |
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David Mason
From:
Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 7 Apr 2013 7:54 pm
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They'll do that with guns, but only if they were used to shoot people - we'd have to hear this one first.  |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 8 Apr 2013 10:01 am
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| maybe the endplate was changed. |
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Martin Weenick
From:
Lecanto, FL, USA
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Posted 8 Apr 2013 11:03 am Stolen Guitar
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When I was living in St. Petersburg, FL. my friend Bill Davis had one identical to that stolen. He put it in the back seat of his car and then went back in the club to get his amp and it was gone when he got back to the car. A period of about 3 minutes. This was around 1975 or so. I have tried to contact Bill over the years but he has moved and I have no Idea where he is. There must be close to a million Bill Davis's in the US. Martin.
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 8 Apr 2013 1:17 pm
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| chris ivey wrote: |
what would be proper protocol for this?
when is it no longer stolen (if it even was) ..as opposed to lost or forgotten? if you have no one to connect it to??
how would someone proove it was, indeed, their old steel? |
If it's stolen, it doesn't matter when. Stolen property never stops being stolen property. As long as the previous owner (or their heirs) has proof his guitar was stolen, and can identify it, it reverts back to said previous owners. This is why you always get a signed bill of sale if you want to protect yourself, and why you should never buy from a suspicious seller.
Proof of the item being stolen would be a certified copy of the original police report, and proof of valid ownership would be an original receipt, or verifiable (read: can be dated) photographs which show unique details. Digital photos would likely not be allowed, as they are so easy to fake (unless they have been published in print). |
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Carl Mesrobian
From:
Salem, Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 12 Apr 2013 4:46 pm
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I'd love to recover my 60's Les Paul Custom and BF Twin that were stolen in Boston in the early 70's. Talk about money in the bank  Lost the police report, though..
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Jack Wilson
From:
Marshfield, MO
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Posted 13 Apr 2013 1:11 pm Funny
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| A friend of mine left his steel in the back seat, and when he returned to his car, someone had put 3 more steel guitars in his back seat. |
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Fred Layman
From:
Springfield, Missouri USA
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Posted 19 Apr 2013 6:35 pm Stolen Sho-Bud
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| Sorry, not mine. But thanks for the contact. How much is the store asking for it? I restore these if the cost is right. FDL |
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Duane Keiper
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Niagara Falls, New York
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Posted 20 Apr 2013 8:44 am
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| The latest word: I have been in contact with the store owner and he went back to the person that sold him this guitar and got the background. This guitar is a guitar that was stolen and recovered. So when the guitars owner got it back the numbers had been removed. I feel much better about the guitar now and I now have it back. I'm glad it turned out the way it did because you just never know. |
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Jack Goodson
From:
new brockton,alabama (deceased)
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Posted 20 Apr 2013 9:05 am crossover d/10 shobud
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| if anyone should run across a d/10 crossover serial number 7545 it belongs to me. it was stolen out of the trunk of my car in nashville tenn. in the early 70's. i know it would be a shot in the dark but you never know....thanks jack....(i still have the receipt where i bought it new) |
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Bob Metzger
From:
Waltham (Boston), MA, USA
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Posted 20 Apr 2013 10:51 am
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Stolen instruments are a drag. Almost everyone I know who has been playing a long time has suffered this kind of loss at one time or another. Saving your original receipt and having a police report for the stolen goods are the best ideas to aid in recovery.
But we can also do something for ourselves. I just did a major renovation of one of my steels. One can put a small slip of paper under the headstock (when it's off of the steel) or under the fingerboard or on the underside the pickup with the date you bought it and the date you put the paper there and, of course, with your name and contact info. You could also make some sort of identifying mark on the steel. People used to use an etching device for driver's license numbers or social security numbers but you could carve a unique marking in the body underside or the endplate inside or some not-so-obvious place and take a photo of it. These measures would go along way to help in recovery of these expensive and sometimes irreplaceable instruments.
Bob M.
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Jerome Hawkes
From:
Fayetteville, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 20 Apr 2013 1:41 pm
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| Duane Keiper wrote: |
| The latest word: I have been in contact with the store owner and he went back to the person that sold him this guitar and got the background. This guitar is a guitar that was stolen and recovered. So when the guitars owner got it back the numbers had been removed. I feel much better about the guitar now and I now have it back. I'm glad it turned out the way it did because you just never know. |
The problem Is that now the burden of proof is now on you if / when you decide to sell it cause it has a removed serial #. I bought some high end camera equipment years ago like this - I could never sell it, even with a sales receipt cause people just shy away from this scenario. Then if you price it low just to get rid of it they really get suspicious! - to this day it sits boxed in my attic.
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Duane Keiper
From:
Niagara Falls, New York
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Posted 20 Apr 2013 3:30 pm
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Jerome, you've gotta a good point. I know I could part it out and make my money back and some. I didn't buy it to brake it up, it's a nice guitar. My plan is to make it beautiful,turn it into something I can be proud of. In the end if I can't sell it if I so choose, then I can think of worst things to be stuck with than a beautiful Sho-Bud. To tell ya the truth it looks like a huge amount of work for me to handle and I have mixed feelings about buying it but now I've got it. Thanks, Duane
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Ronnie Boettcher
From:
Brunswick Ohio, USA
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Posted 20 Apr 2013 3:38 pm
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Not a steel, but had a 58 strat walk out of my house, in about 1984. Was a black to natural, with a maple neck. Perfect condition guitar and case.
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Bob Metzger
From:
Waltham (Boston), MA, USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2013 7:34 am
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Yes, Duane, you're right. You could implant a chip in your steel and a corresponding one in your brain. If anyone else but you plays the guitar, it becomes capable of only playing diminished chords. That'll fix 'em.
Bob M.
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2013 10:16 am
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Bob,
I'm sure you remember my '58 Flying V that was stolen. If I had it back, I'd sell it and buy a condo someplace warm!
JB
Just for fun, here's a pic of Gary playing it. I'm playing steel on this song I guess.
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Bob Metzger
From:
Waltham (Boston), MA, USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2013 11:30 am
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Hi JB,
Yes, losing a valuable (and historic) instrument is the ultimate drag. I didn't know you had one of these. There was another guy in our town back then that also had one, one of the original 1958 series Flying Vs. He would loan it to me from time to time (we were in a band together back then) and it was a great guitar. Isn't that amazing that TWO of the original series Flying Vs ended up in our town back then. I'm no Gibson historian but I've heard the original series was a very small run, something like 50~60 instruments. I also got to know a third guy in England who also had an original V from '58. I've heard that ten of these original series went to the UK. The steel community is starting to catch up to the guitar community in our appreciation and documentation of the original instruments made.
Bob M.
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Bob Metzger
From:
Waltham (Boston), MA, USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2013 11:42 am Stolen Steel Registry...
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All,
Maybe we could start a registry of known, documented stolen steel guitars. It could possibly be a section of the forum here, if the members wanted that. Its access would have to be limited, probably only to established forum members so thieves couldn't just join up on the forum in order to check the stolen list before moving hot goods. I guess if this sort of idea resonates with the members, we could do this. It just might help in recovering stolen instruments.
Bob M.
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Jan Viljoen
From:
Pretoria, South Africa
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Posted 22 Apr 2013 10:42 pm Flying V
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Gibson built 81 in '58 and 17 in '59.
Interesting that the actor Steven Seagal, owns three.
The were originally listed for $247,50.
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