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Tom Rierden

 

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Post  Posted 20 Apr 2019 10:53 am    
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Bought myself a GFI Expo for Christmas 2018.I've only been playing for a couple of months now.Total Greenhorn. Spending time with The Franklin Method and lots of practice keeps the hope and fun up.
Here's my question.....When attempting to play certain 9th chords. I need to push down Pedals A&B,while at the same time activating my 2nd from the left knee lever to drop the E strings. I have become quite frustrated trying to pull this left leg circus maneuver off. Is it possible to switch my knee levers? I.E. switching the 2nd knee lever to the 3rd or 4th lever?
Any reply welcome!
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 20 Apr 2019 11:03 am    
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Yes. Many players, myself included, lower their E strings on RKL (Right Knee moving Left) instead of LKR (Left Knee moving Right).

You would need to flip the guitar over and move some parts around. It's not hard to do on that model. Be sure to write down which holes things were attached to before disconnecting anything.

I see that GFI published a rodding chart on their web site. I wish every builder did that! Mr. Green

www.gfimusicalproducts.com/documentation.html#E9rod

If it's a new guitar, that chart should match up with what you see underneath the guitar.
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Paul Sutherland

 

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Placerville, California
Post  Posted 20 Apr 2019 11:25 am    
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I agree with everything Bob said, but would suggest that you first consider whether you really want to move the function of particular levers, as you have suggested. That may not really be your problem. Perhaps the problem is just that the lever(s) are not in a good position for your anatomy.

We are all built a bit different and it's impossible for a builder to position all knee levers exactly in the best location for every player. I always have to move the levers on my left knee. I would first try adjusting the angle of the levers on the left knee to see if that helps or solves the problem. The other option would be to consider moving the left knee levers further away from you, or closer to you to see what that does. That means further or closer from the back rail of the steel.

If neither of those help, I would fold the left knee levers up so they are completely out of the way and then play the steel using just the floor pedals. Take note, perhaps with the help of the second person, of where your left knee naturally wants to go. From there you can determine where the left knee levers need to be for you.

It is a big improvement when the knee levers are in the right places for you. But you may have to drill some holes to get there.
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Tom Rierden

 

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Washington, USA
Post  Posted 20 Apr 2019 1:38 pm    
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Thank You Bob and Paul!
I'm quite sure both of your reply's to my question will be beneficial.
Really terrific joining the SGForum!

Thanks,and,Have a great day!
Tom
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Tony Glassman


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The Great Northwest
Post  Posted 20 Apr 2019 4:05 pm    
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Are your pedals set up Day style (CBA) or Emmons (ABC)?
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Tom Rierden

 

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Post  Posted 20 Apr 2019 4:27 pm    
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Emmons
ABC
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Ronnie Boettcher


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Brunswick Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 21 Apr 2019 5:58 am    
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I agree 100% with Paul. Everyone is built different, tall, short, thin, heavy. The builders put the levers in a average position, and that does not work well for everyone. I, myself had to move both left knee levers, farther left, and closer together. Also moved the right knee levers closer together, so I didn't have to move my legs so far. I believe every player has to set up their guitar to fit them. Even raising, or lowering the guitar, so your legs fit under it to fit your height. Ronnie
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Tony Glassman


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Post  Posted 21 Apr 2019 2:59 pm    
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The knee leveer angle should be adjustable (see GFI support). If the LKR lever is too far over to the right to engage when holding pedals A&B down, use the KL adusting screw to move the bottom of the knee lever to the left. If it's too far left.......vice versa.
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Tom Rierden

 

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Washington, USA
Post  Posted 21 Apr 2019 6:07 pm    
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Howdy Tony,
That's a real good starting point.
I'll try to dial the LKR in this week after work.
It would be nice if I didn't have to make the lever swing so much to activate it's function.
Thank You for your advice and time to reply!
Tom on Orcas
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Tony Glassman


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The Great Northwest
Post  Posted 21 Apr 2019 11:12 pm    
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That adjustment will NOT change the length of the knee lever throw, but it will bring the knee lever starting-point closer toward the left end of your steel.
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