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Sidney Ralph Penton
From:
Moberly, Missouri, USA
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Posted 2 May 2006 9:11 pm |
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i would like to know what most people use as a tunning. i used the tunning from mel bays book for a long time and a friend of mine said tune everything to 440. it works but i dont think it sounds as good. the first thing i learned about psg is there are many different ways to tune a psg. i would like to know what most use. thanks doc.
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 2 May 2006 10:01 pm
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My setup may be a bit weird, but even with my 8 string/B6 I've found that if I compromise between 440 and the cents alteration on BE's website (for his C6 tuning, plus some fudging for my other changes) it sounds pretty weird playing alone, but playing with others it seems dead on. 440 sounds great by itself, but out of tune otherwise.
I know there have been vehement debates about this and I forget which tuning "style" it is I'm using, but it works for my ear. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 3 May 2006 12:42 am
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here we go again..
I tune basically to 441..and then touch up by ear..
I play ( attempt) many phrases at the zero fret with AB pedals , key of A...
This gets the Steel tuning much closer to the 6 string in the open fret position...
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TPrior Steel Guitar Homesite
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A. J. Schobert
From:
Cincinnati, Ohio,
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Posted 3 May 2006 3:29 am
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| If you go to carters web my tuning is the most requested, now call a pedal steel dealer and have them fax you over a tuning chart, the chart will show plus's and negatives in cents, there may be something already on the forum |
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Howard Tate
From:
Leesville, Louisiana, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 3 May 2006 4:44 am
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After all the debates about tuning, it seems to me that the great players do not all use the same method but they all sound in tune. Most seem to tweak it, but some tune straight up 440 and sound great. If I tune straight up 440 I do not sound in tune to myself.
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Wayne D. Clark
From:
Montello Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 3 May 2006 6:48 am
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Sidney, try these two web sights, I think they will give you some help.
www.b0b.com/tunings/index.html
Note: the 0 in b0b is the numeric zero, not a capital "O"
www.jeffran.com/tuning/tuning.htm
Both of these are good sights and b0b's sight will give you the name of the player, click on the name and you will see his tuning. also note E9th, C6th and others.
Wayne
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Sonny Priddy
From:
Elizabethtown, Kentucky, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 3 May 2006 7:29 am
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I Use The Jeff Newman Tunning. SONNY.
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 3 May 2006 7:31 am
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My teacher tunes by starting with tuning his E notes to 440 with the pedals down, and proceeds from there.
Me.. I bought a Peterson tuner and it works well for me. There is a learning process to tuning and playing.
Practice more, look at the tuner less.
Go out and play with a band for free if necessary and many problems disappear in live situations because you don't have time to screw with it and just have to play.
Learn to trust your ears and not your eyes.
Ken Metcalf D-10 Carson Wells |
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John Sluszny
From:
Brussels, Belgium
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Posted 3 May 2006 8:41 am
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Dan Beller-McKenna
From:
Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 4 May 2006 3:49 am
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After tuning 4 and 8 with a tuner I primarily use harmonics to tune, aiming to eliminate the beats by ear. I end up with something that probably is the same as one of the methods mentioned above.
1. Tune 4 and 8 to 440 with A+B pedals down.
2. Tune 5 an 10 to 440.
3. Tune 6 / 5th fret harmonic to 8 / 4th fret harmonic. These are far south of 440.
4. Tune open 3 to 6 / 12th fret harmonic (or 3 / 12th fret harmonic to 6 / 5th fret harmonic.
5. Tune 6B/ 7th fret harmonic to 8 / 5th fret harmonic.
6. Tune 3B to 6B as n step 4.
7. Tune 5A /7th fret harmonic to 8 / 4th fret harmonic.
8. Tune 10A to 5A as in step 4.
The remaining strings are, of course more problematic(!) SInce the A pedal has been tuned "flat," strings 7 and 1 tuned true (to 440 amd/or the 7th fret harmonic on 10) will be very flat against 10A and 5A. I will usually temper them slightly down from 440 so they are barely flat against open 5 and 10 and noticably sharp (heavy beats) against 5A and 10A.
I similarly tune 9 somewhere "in between" 5 and 6B. Finally I do the same for 2: somewhere between 5 and the tempered 1.
I could go on with the various knee levers and the C poedal, but you get the picture.
Dan
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Durham, NH
[This message was edited by Dan Beller-McKenna on 04 May 2006 at 05:12 AM.] |
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