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Olli Haavisto


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Jarvenpaa,Finland
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2006 1:21 am    
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Has anybody used a capo on PSG to be able to play for example Hold It or Remington Ride in original keys on universal B6 ? Other solutions ? This is probably the only thing holding me back from going Universal .
Thanks !

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Olli Haavisto,
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[This message was edited by Olli Haavisto on 30 April 2006 at 04:01 AM.]

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Ernie Pollock

 

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Mt Savage, Md USA
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2006 3:50 am    
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I have used a capo on my 12 string in certain cases, but most of the time I learn the song without having to do that. I have a very simple little capo, its a piece of aluminum bar [available in most hardware stores] and a small piece of round rod just glued to that, then I put glue a little felt on the bottom of it so that it does not damage the fretboard as I slide it under the strings & down to the 1st fret. I works great.

Ernie Pollock
PS: if you think you would need a picture of that capo, let me know. http://www.hereintown.net/~shobud75/stock.htm

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Larry Bell


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Englewood, Florida
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2006 5:44 am    
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Never really used a capo. I see no particular reason to play them in the original key. I do Four Wheel Drive in B (on my CD 'Pedal Steel Guitar' ) and do Raisin' the Dickens and Remington Ride in C#. I have played most of the 'Black Album' at one time or another and tend to play the tunes that don't require open notes in the original key and the others 1/2 step lower. Bands I've played with usually don't mind. Some keyboard players may have a problem, but I've met some who love B and C#.

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Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
My CD's: 'I've Got Friends in COLD Places' - 'Pedal Steel Guitar'
2003 Fessenden S/D-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S/D-12 6x6, 1984 Sho-Bud S/D-12 7x6, 1971 Dobro, Standel and Peavey Amps

[This message was edited by Larry Bell on 30 April 2006 at 06:46 AM.]

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Bobby Lee


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Cloverdale, California, USA
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2006 11:13 am    
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Most bands would rather play "Steelin' the Blues" in C than in its original key of C#. The U-12 has the advantage on that one.
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Ernie Pollock

 

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Mt Savage, Md USA
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2006 1:16 pm    
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I have been using a real good 4 wheel drive track that Jeff made, I play that in C at the first fret, man it really cooks, see no reason you cannot do that, except that the guys that must copy every note to consider the song 'right', they would have to do it the other way, you know, just not right, but then who determines right anyhow?? I never copy anything if I can help it. [and I can]

Ernie Pollock no pun intended??

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Larry Bell


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Englewood, Florida
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2006 2:23 pm    
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Ernie,
Just curious -- how do you play the intro? Or do you just play something other than the one Buddy played?

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Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
My CD's: 'I've Got Friends in COLD Places' - 'Pedal Steel Guitar'
2003 Fessenden S/D-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S/D-12 6x6, 1984 Sho-Bud S/D-12 7x6, 1971 Dobro, Standel and Peavey Amps
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Larry Phleger

 

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DuBois, PA
Post  Posted 1 May 2006 8:42 am    
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What Ernie said. I always found the other members of bands I played with like C better than C#.
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Larry Bell


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Englewood, Florida
Post  Posted 1 May 2006 10:26 am    
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Point well taken, but 4 Wheel Drive is in C and uses open strings both for the intro and the head, when Buddy Emmons plays it (or Herby Wallace for that matter). I guess I would rather be true to the tune than cater to the band. Sure you can play AT it in any key, but the open string bar slurs and other hammer on / pull off stuff is just part of the tune. On the universal you would play it in B, not C#.

I don't use a capo because of the hassle and down time between tunes to get it on and tuned -- maybe there's a better model or design that I haven't seen but I've always used 4WD as a break tune and we usually go RIGHT INTO IT after the last tune so waiting a minute or so to get it installed and tuned is usually not an option -- at least the way I've most often used the tune.

Any band who can't play in B for ONE INSTRUMENTAL isn't capable of doing justice to a tune like 4WD anyway, in my book.

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Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
My CD's: 'I've Got Friends in COLD Places' - 'Pedal Steel Guitar'
2003 Fessenden S/D-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S/D-12 6x6, 1984 Sho-Bud S/D-12 7x6, 1971 Dobro, Standel and Peavey Amps
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