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Luke Morell
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Ramsey Illinois, USA Hometown of Tex Williams
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Posted 5 Mar 2006 6:25 pm |
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| Anybody have any dealings with a Magnum Steel? How good are they? |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 6 Mar 2006 4:21 am
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| call bobbe seymore |
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Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Posted 6 Mar 2006 4:28 am
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I tried one out at the NAMM show 6 weeks ago and liked it. I thought it played well and sounded good.
I can see why Bobbe likes them. |
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Allan Thompson
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Scotland.
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Posted 6 Mar 2006 4:55 am
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| Wait till you hear Sarah Jory play hers. Mind you Sarah could make any guitar sound great. |
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Fred Justice
From:
Mesa, Arizona
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Posted 6 Mar 2006 7:01 am
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Allan, I thought Sarah was playing a Mullen?
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Fred Justice,
Fred's Music www.fredjusticemusic.com
Rains Steel Guitars
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John Fabian
From:
Mesquite, Texas USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Mar 2006 8:54 am
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David Wright
From:
Pilot Point ,Tx USA.
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Jim Eaton
From:
Santa Susana, Ca
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Posted 6 Mar 2006 9:15 am
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I played one at the NAMM show and was very impressed with it. A lot of guitar for the price.
JE:-)>
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Emmons D10 8/4 P/P -75'
Fessenden SD-10 3/5
Zum SD-12 7/5 - 91'
76'Session 400
86'Nashville 400
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 6 Mar 2006 3:10 pm
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| I thought Sarah played an EMCI. When did she switch? |
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Curt Langston
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Posted 6 Mar 2006 3:29 pm
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Mike, as you probably know, many builders will give their products away in endorsment deals. Artists will usually "agree" to play the instrument for a set amount of time. This is all well and fine, except for the fact that the costs of endorsments are usually passed on in the prices of their guitars. Unfortunately that means an increase in the price of the guitar to the Joe Blows of the world. This is the way it usually goes. I do not mean to single out any one brand, but manufacturers in general.
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Mike Weirauch
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Harrisburg, Illinois**The Hub of the Universe
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Posted 6 Mar 2006 3:53 pm
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| Curt, what rock did you just crawl out from underneath? The days of "giving" a guitar away as a promotional is long gone. Manufacturers might give some pro players a substantial discount on a guitar but it will usually cover their costs so no expense is passed on to the "Joe Blows" who have to pay retail price. If there are any who still do give their product away, they are few and are very selective. |
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Joe Alterio
From:
Irvington, Indiana
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Posted 6 Mar 2006 4:11 pm
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There are a lot of freebies still handed out in the electric guitar world. A friend of mine was recently given a Gibson guitar so long as he plays it exclusively on stage (not sure if there is a time limit or not). This was just a few months ago.
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Curt Langston
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Posted 6 Mar 2006 4:37 pm
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| The days of "giving" a guitar away as a promotional is long gone. |
Mike W., I don't know what your problem is,(or care) but you are definately out of touch. What makes you think manufacturers do not give their products away as endorsements? Are you a builder?.... Are you a super player?....I think not.
Geez
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Joey Ace
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 6 Mar 2006 4:45 pm
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It's true in the Standard Guitar world, where the large market makes it a good business practice.
Every Steel builder that I've spoken to (that's most of them), and many Pros, all say Steel Guitar give aways simply don't happen. The builders can't afford it in our small market. |
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Mike Weirauch
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Harrisburg, Illinois**The Hub of the Universe
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Posted 6 Mar 2006 6:01 pm
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| Mike W., I don't know what your problem is |
......Other than correcting you I have no problem. |
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Bobby Boggs
From:
Upstate SC.
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Posted 6 Mar 2006 8:44 pm
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| If you where a steel builder? How could you afford to not give high profile players a guitar? Now I'm not talking about every guy that's got a road gig. But the super stars of pedal steel.If there is such a thing? Of course you'd have to insist they endose it or turn it in.Just makes good business sense. |
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Curt Langston
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Posted 6 Mar 2006 8:55 pm
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| How could you afford to not give high profile players a guitar? |
Exactly......... It's not rocket science.
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| Every Steel builder that I've spoken to (that's most of them), and many Pros, all say Steel Guitar give aways simply don't happen. |
Well, I sure don't expect them to advertise the fact. That would be foolish, don't you think?
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[This message was edited by Curt Langston on 06 March 2006 at 08:57 PM.] |
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Alan James
From:
San Francisco, CA, USA
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Posted 7 Mar 2006 3:03 am
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| Anybody have any dealings with a Magnum Steel? How good are they? |
How does all this opinionated dumping help answer the original question?
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| What makes you think manufacturers do not give their products away as endorsements? Are you a builder?.... Are you a super player?....I think not. |
Curt, if that's your criteria for stating an opinion about endorsements, then I don't think you qualify either.
BTW You mispelled apathetic. There is only one "a" and it isn't the first letter in the word.  |
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Brian Henry
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Posted 7 Mar 2006 3:49 am
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| Good to see that Mike is being his old self again. How can you be so naive?? Has there been a slow down in the undertaker business?? |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 7 Mar 2006 5:01 am
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I think it is wise to walk instead of run..
In most cases for the PRO players..
they DID not receive there Steels for free,
that from one very famous players mouth..
Perhaps before making the statement which in this case refers to Sarah and the Magnum....maybe actually knowing the business transaction first would be wise.
Even if it were true, it's not anyones business other than Sarah's and Carter's...
It's called marketing..every business does it..large small..in between..
I hardly think that even if they gave Sarah 1 Steel in the scheme of things will really drive the cost up of the rest of them.
What if she doesn't own it ?
What if she bought it ?
What if she has it on loan ?
What if what if what if..
It's a brand new Steel on the market..
What if builders didn't make new Steels anymore ?
What if 1000 people see her play it and want one and buy one?
Does that drive the cost up ?
Unless someone actually knows the facts it is wise to not make a blanket statement about something which is not our business anyway...
Hey..On the Emmons website homepage there is a picture of Steve Rabbits new Steel which Ron Jr. must have given to him for free...otherwise why would it be there..? |
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Brian Henry
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Posted 7 Mar 2006 2:51 pm
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"The days of "giving" a guitar away as a promotional is long gone."
Mike! In your business do you ever give away free caskets as a promotional, or do you give substantial discounts? |
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Bill OConnor
From:
Castle Rock, Washington, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 7 Mar 2006 4:22 pm
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I don`t know about steel endorsments but my son inlaw gets basses and amps from fender free. I won`t mention his name because it might harm his deal.He does however have to pay a very low price for G S H strings So there are some deals for high profile people.
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Bobbe Seymour
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Hendersonville TN USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 7 Mar 2006 4:43 pm
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I was told in no uncertain terms that NO Magnum steel guitars will be given away to prominent players. Pat Seivers (of the Nashville Star TV show) just bought a new one from me. We asked the Magnum company for some what of a deal for Pat,and none, but they did pat me on the head.
You can rest assured that Ms. Jory paid for hers, and why not? Now she owns and can legally do what ever she wishes with it. |
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Rodney Garrison
From:
Montague County , Texas (deceased)
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Posted 7 Mar 2006 4:44 pm
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Luke, Please let us know how that Carter suits you. I'll bet you will be pleased. The Carter folks DO know what WE want and I believe in their products and knowledge.
Check one out ! ! |
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Bobby Boggs
From:
Upstate SC.
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Posted 7 Mar 2006 6:05 pm
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Bobbe wrote:
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| You can rest assured that Ms. Jory paid for hers, and why not? |
I guess we can assume then that Ms.Jory feels the Magnum is as good or better than the top of the line Carter? Or not worth the additional cost? Or maybe she was just a little short on cash?? |
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