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Gordon Borland


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San Antonio, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 10 Feb 2006 10:39 pm    
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Would you post a sample clip or refer to it from here RebelĀ® of what you consider a pedal steel tone that has "That Sound" to you?
For me its this sound. Night Life
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Gordon Borland
MSA D10,FENDER STEEL KING,

[This message was edited by Gordon Borland on 11 February 2006 at 08:18 AM.]

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Fred Nolen

 

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Mohawk, Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 11 Feb 2006 5:59 am    
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If the steel don't fit - you must acquit.

Ol' Fred
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Les Green


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Jefferson City, MO, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 11 Feb 2006 6:43 am    
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Ol' Fred,
"If the steel don't fit - You must acquit."
That's a CLASSIC!
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 11 Feb 2006 7:57 am    
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Of course, everything sounds a little different. Black steels sound better than old ones, and tube amps sound better than Ray Price.

"I play an Emmons! Don't I sound just like Buddy?"

Yes, Buddy Ebsen.

"I play a ZB! Don't I remind you of Tom?

Yes, Tom Bradley.

I play a Sho~Bud! I wanted to sound like Lloyd!

You do...Lloyd Bridges.

Would you rather hear Emmons on an old Marlen, or me playing "The Blade"?

Maybe a certain guitar makes you feel good, but I can guarantee that if you can play well, you can make any one sound good. And if you can't play, the world's best gear ain't gonna help 'ya! I never saw people walking out on Buddy when he was playing an MCI. People didn't throw away their "Evening of E9th" tapes because Lloyd was playing a JCH. And, Ralph Mooney didn't lose any audience because he wasn't playing a Fender.

Are there some out here that still think that a certain guitar will make them sound better, or play better? (Chuckle-chuckle) I've seen a hundred players change brands to sound better. Sadly, it didn't help their playing.

Either you can play the damn thing, or you can't. (I think Tom Brunley said that.) I'm inclined to agree.

[This message was edited by Donny Hinson on 11 February 2006 at 08:00 AM.]

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Terry Edwards


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Florida... livin' on spongecake...
Post  Posted 11 Feb 2006 8:12 am    
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Gordon,

You don't have a snowball's chance.

Where were you during jury selection?

7 of the 12 jurors own black Emmons P-P guitars!!!


Terry
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Gordon Borland


From:
San Antonio, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 11 Feb 2006 8:20 am    
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Did I just hear someone say "Get a rope"?


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MSA D10,FENDER STEEL KING,
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billy tam R.I.P.

 

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baton rouge, louisiana
Post  Posted 11 Feb 2006 8:28 am    
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Ahhh, The elusive tone ? again. One of my favorite guitar players over the years has been
Mark Knoffler with Dire Straits and as a solo artist. In my opinion Mark's tone varies on almost every song but it seems he has the ability to match the tone with the song as a near perfect match. I know the regardless of which steel I play I still move my pic hand to and from the pickup and vary my attack to change from song to song. Like I say just my opinion.

Billy Tam
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Dave Grafe


From:
Hudson River Valley NY
Post  Posted 11 Feb 2006 11:40 am    
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What Donny said....
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Howard Tate


From:
Leesville, Louisiana, USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 11 Feb 2006 12:16 pm    
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"Are there some out here that still think that a certain guitar will make them sound better, or play better?"
I know for a fact that a new Zum would make me sound like John Hughey, and a new Big Bertha would make me drive like Tiger Woods. As soon as I save some more money I'll prove it.

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Charlie McDonald


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Post  Posted 11 Feb 2006 1:14 pm    
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When I think of tone, I think of Knopfler.
Maybe that's why he likes Paul Franklin's playing; tone is in the ears.

Gordon, I really liked your original post....

[This message was edited by Charlie McDonald on 11 February 2006 at 01:15 PM.]

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Gordon Borland


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San Antonio, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 11 Feb 2006 2:16 pm    
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Thanks Charlie but I was hoping to get folks to put clips on but it looked like it went in another direction. So far it is a bust.
There are many threads about tone and sound and that is not where I was trying to go with this thread. I was hoping to get folks to post an example or suggest a cut on an LP
that many people might have.
A picture is worth a thousand words so a sound is worth about a thousand keystrokes.
I appreciate it when people post pictures and sound clips when it fits.

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Gordon Borland
MSA D10,FENDER STEEL KING,

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Billy Carr

 

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Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 11 Feb 2006 2:52 pm    
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It usually ain't the guitar. It's the one sitting behind it. Personally, I see what a players playing(brand) and then I listen for his/her tone, execution, etc. When I sit down behind a guitar the first thing I usually do is, forget the brand. It's the player.
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David Wren


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Placerville, California, USA
Post  Posted 11 Feb 2006 3:09 pm    
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Nice observation Billy!


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Dave Wren
'95Carter S12-E9/B6,7X7; Twin Session 500s; Hilton Pedal; Black Box
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Jim Bob Sedgwick

 

From:
Clinton, Missouri USA
Post  Posted 11 Feb 2006 4:42 pm    
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JMO One cannot buy the sound. One has to learn to MAKE the sound. "Nuff said.
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