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Gary Hoetker

 

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Post  Posted 8 Dec 2023 5:53 pm    
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That would include "The Porter Wagoner Show" and "Porter Wagoner In Person" LP's in 1963 and '64 respectively. Sounds like Hal Rugg on the second live album and on The "Thin Man From West Plains" album. Then maybe Pete Drake on "Confessions of A Broken Man" who made his steel sound almost like a viola, especially on Skid Row Joe. He was kinda quirky with those type of things.

Those were some truly great years for Country Music enthusiasts.

Thanks and God Bless from Bakersfield, CA.
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Craig A Davidson


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Post  Posted 9 Dec 2023 9:09 am    
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Thin Man and Confessions are both Pete. I was told I think in a thread on here that Hal is on the In Person album. I also read someplace that Buddy Charleton played on some of Porter's stuff.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 9 Dec 2023 10:12 am    
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Porter’s “Howdy Neighbor, Howdy” (Jan. ‘64) featured Buddy Charleton playing one of my all-time favorite rides. It shows clearly what can be done using only the A&B pedals when you really know how to play! Cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkjKOClJuvM
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scott murray


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Post  Posted 9 Dec 2023 10:40 am    
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the Praguefrank site is a good resource for personnel, though it's not always totally accurate and some sessions have no info available. cool to see Jimmy Day listed on several early 60s dates, and Buddy Emmons in '59

https://countrydiscoghraphy2.blogspot.com/2014/08/porter-wagoner-part-1.html
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Steve Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 11 Dec 2023 9:00 am     ...and...
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Donny Hinson wrote:
Porter’s “Howdy Neighbor, Howdy” (Jan. ‘64) featured Buddy Charleton playing one of my all-time favorite rides. It shows clearly what can be done using only the A&B pedals when you really know how to play! Cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkjKOClJuvM


Charleton's tone!!!

I've NEVER been able to coax that tone out of a Sho-Bud-that is the textbook classic
60's Sho-Bud tone-Pete,Lloyd,Charleton,Emmons,they ALL had it!

Makes me wanna dust off my crossover and play it more, but it's too heavy to leave the house!

SH
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Pete Finney

 

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Post  Posted 11 Dec 2023 10:51 am    
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More favorite Buddy Charleton with Porter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxadHCqNzHQ

Charleton's on most (or maybe all) of Porter's "Y'all Come" album too, I think, and you can't go wrong with all that Buck Trent either!
Lloyd Green is on some of the Porter and Dolly duets, not sure about Porter's solo stuff but I'd guess Lloyd played on some of it.
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Bill Ferguson


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Post  Posted 11 Dec 2023 12:14 pm    
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And I would bet that is all palm blocking. Very Happy
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Steve Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 11 Dec 2023 2:07 pm     ...yep...
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Here's one with Jimmy Day...

He foreshadows Pete's intro on"She's Actin' Single(I'm Drinkin'Doubles)"on the end!

...also,Buck's big ole 7th on the end of the turnaround-that would have 'em projectile
thowin'up down the street at Belmont University...

SH
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Greg Cutshaw


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Post  Posted 11 Dec 2023 3:07 pm    
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I always thought that Misery Loves Company was Charleton.
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Steve Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 11 Dec 2023 7:43 pm     ...well...
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...I forgot the link...

Here's one with Jimmy Day...

He foreshadows Pete's intro on"She's Actin' Single(I'm Drinkin'Doubles)"on the end!

...also,Buck's big ole 7th on the end of the turnaround-that would have 'em projectile
thowin'up down the street at Belmont University...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HBwrvdnx58
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Rick Campbell


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Post  Posted 11 Dec 2023 10:45 pm     Re: ...well...
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Steve Hinson wrote:
...I forgot the link...

Here's one with Jimmy Day...

He foreshadows Pete's intro on"She's Actin' Single(I'm Drinkin'Doubles)"on the end!

...also,Buck's big ole 7th on the end of the turnaround-that would have 'em projectile
thowin'up down the street at Belmont University...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HBwrvdnx58


Steve, you have a music database in your brain that is like a computer. It's no wonder that you are such a talented player yourself.

RC
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robert kramer

 

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Post  Posted 12 Dec 2023 10:14 am    
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7 March 1963 RCA Victor Studio, 1611 Hawkins St., Nashville, TN – Porter Wagoner (Producer: Chet Atkins)
139 PPA4-0187 KEEPER OF THE KEY Camden CAS-2191

If Porter cut "Keeper Of The Key" on March 7, 1963, it's possible this is the Sho-Bud (pictured below) Day was playing at the time. The image is from a ca. 1963 Price date when both Day & Emmons were doing runs with Price, alternating between steel & bass. This guitar appears to be a later Sho-Bud than Day's first one (Sho-Bud #4?).



Sho-Bud #4? from December 1959: (Jeff Bess on drums)




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Steve Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 12 Dec 2023 3:32 pm     ...so...
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Bob,if that is Sho~Bud #4,might the"Half a Mind"guitar of Buddy Emmons be #3-the one later owned by Pete Drake and given back by Pete to Buddy?

That would account for the first four'Buds...Don Warden's,Ben Keith's(stolen and un- accounted for),Buddy's,and now Jimmy's?And doesn't Lynn Owsley now own the body of #4?

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robert kramer

 

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Post  Posted 12 Dec 2023 6:56 pm    
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Steve, I don't know for sure. If you have any way of finding out, please let me know. As I have it: Don Warden #1, Ben Keith #2, Bobby Garrett #3, Jimmy Day #4, Buddie Emmons/Pete Drake #5. Emmons is quoted as jokingly telling Day, I'll build yours and if I make any mistakes, I'll know when I build mine. He is also quoted as saying Ben Keith got the first double neck.

This are just guesses on my part:

Don Warden



Ben Keith



Bobby Garrett



Jimmy Day



Buddie Emmons as D-8



Pete Drake (above guitar converted to D-10



w/ Jimmy Day's cabinet now owned by Lynn Owsley

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Steve Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 12 Dec 2023 7:25 pm    
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Bob,that makes sense...I remember the Emmons quotes...

Thanks for the great pics-I love this stuff!

SH
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robert kramer

 

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Post  Posted 13 Dec 2023 11:26 am    
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Quick correction. I posted two photos of Jimmy Day's Permanent saying they were different guitars. I now think they're the same guitar, just modified between 1957 and 1963. Both images show "Jimmy Day" on the front apron that was engraved by Emmons who built the first Sho-Bud cabinets. It doesn't seem that Emmons would have engraved signatures on two Jimmy Day guitars. Emmons didn't build cabinets that long a time.

And speaking of the Sho-Bud Permanent tone. Here is Day on a December 1959 "Country Jamboree" filmed in Nashville and broadcast in the afternoons over WLAC. This has been posted here before but Day w/ Ferlin @ 3:30 is well worth revisiting to hear why Jimmy Day was "The Man."

1950s, COMMUNITY JAMBOREE, RAY PRICE, FERLIN HUSKEY, MARGIE BOWES, JIMMY DAY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or758vRoHPQ
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Henry Matthews


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Post  Posted 14 Dec 2023 8:54 pm     Re: ...well...
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Steve Hinson wrote:
...I forgot the link...

Here's one with Jimmy Day...

He foreshadows Pete's intro on"She's Actin' Single(I'm Drinkin'Doubles)"on the end!

...also,Buck's big ole 7th on the end of the turnaround-that would have 'em projectile
thowin'up down the street at Belmont University...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HBwrvdnx58


Steve, I don’t think Pete played on Shes acting Single. You are talking about Gary Stewart’s version aren’t you? Weldon told me himself that he played on it unless I just completely misunderstood.
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Marco Schouten


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Post  Posted 15 Dec 2023 3:27 am    
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Lloyd Green played on some records in the later 60's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7WhNc_Mm4E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43DD3kcXh5s
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