| Visit Our Catalog at SteelGuitarShopper.com |

Post new topic ebay pawnshop las vegas
Reply to topic
Author Topic:  ebay pawnshop las vegas
Gordon Borland


From:
San Antonio, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 25 Jan 2006 7:35 pm    
Reply with quote

This item number 7385107349 is being offered on ebay by a pawnshop.
I wonder who it belongs to.
I dont much care for pawnshops.


------------------
Gordon Borland
MSA D10,FENDER STEEL KING, NASHVILLE 400,PEAVEY SESSIONS 2000, 1963 BROWN FENDER DELUXE NO REVERB. 1973 FENDER JAGUAR SUNBURST SIX STRING GUITAR, PEAVEY T60 SIX STRING GUITAR.


View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Darvin Willhoite


From:
Roxton, Tx. USA
Post  Posted 26 Jan 2006 6:12 am    
Reply with quote

Just because a Pawnshop has it doesn't mean its stolen. Pawnshops are like anything else, one bad one gives them all a bad name.

------------------
Darvin Willhoite
Riva Ridge Recording


View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Herb Steiner


From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
Post  Posted 26 Jan 2006 6:42 am    
Reply with quote

Think about this: A police detective told me one time "if it weren't for pawn shops, people would never recover anything stolen from them."

No pawn shop owner in his right mind would knowingly accept stolen stuff. The vast majority of the merch is just legally owned by folks who've fallen on hard times and sold it outright, or have been unable to pay back the loan and lost the item thataway.

Pawn shops lose the money they paid for the stolen merch when it's confiscated by the cops. Legally and technically, if insurance paid you a settlement for the stuff, and you later find it in a pawn shop, it's owned by the insurance company. That happened to me and the insurance company asked if I'd like to buy the stuff back from them for what they paid me for it. I declined, since it was just outdated PA equipment anyway.

------------------
Herb's Steel Guitar Pages
Texas Steel Guitar Association


View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Gordon Borland


From:
San Antonio, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 26 Jan 2006 7:57 pm    
Reply with quote

Herb, it is not a positive thing to look down you nose at most any kind of business and was a negative thing for me to say. I am glad you gave some points of view to think about and I thank you for that.

Darvin you are most correct. As I grew up my family never had any thing positive to say about pawnshops. I should have not expressed my opinion because it was negative.
The MSA in the post is the exact model I play
and cannot imagin how that work of art could have been pawned. Of course I might have thought that the way I play mine should be in a pawnshop too!!!
Happy steeling!


------------------
Gordon Borland
MSA D10,FENDER STEEL KING, NASHVILLE 400,PEAVEY SESSIONS 2000, 1963 BROWN FENDER DELUXE NO REVERB. 1973 FENDER JAGUAR SUNBURST SIX STRING GUITAR, PEAVEY T60 SIX STRING GUITAR.


[This message was edited by Gordon Borland on 26 January 2006 at 08:13 PM.]

View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Curt Langston


Post  Posted 27 Jan 2006 9:37 am    
Reply with quote

I have found many hidden tresures in pawn shops. Especially steel stuff. The owners often do not realize the value of certain items. Therefore, they do not loan as much on those(steel)items. So, when they come up for sale, they are often bargains. I love to sift through pawn shops. Sometimes I'll make an afternoon out of it. Never know what you may find!
View user's profile Send private message
Marlin Smoot


From:
Kansas
Post  Posted 27 Jan 2006 10:07 am    
Reply with quote

When I've visited a pawn shop(s), I find they sell used items for more than it was new to begin with. But one time in Orange, Texas last year, I found a Regal dobro like they sell in Musicians Friend for just under $400 for only $199 plus tax. It was in excellent condition and sounds great. I purchased a case for it from MF for only $39 so all-in-all ONE time I found a good deal.

But I'll keep looking around, ya never know what you'll find. Swap meets are an interesting event too. The one in Canton, Texas, which I went to in December didn't hold much for musical instruments except the guy asking $700 for a sax that was worth about $150 bucks.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Herb Steiner


From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
Post  Posted 27 Jan 2006 12:24 pm    
Reply with quote

First and most important rule when dealing with pawn shops. KNOW A LOT ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT! I feel comfortable buying guitars, basses, mandos, dobros, and steels of all types in pawn shops because I know a lot about what those items are worth and what could possibly be wrong with them.

On the other hand, I wouldn't buy a fiddle in a pawn shop because I know nothing about violins. I wouldn't buy jewelery in a pawn shop because I know nothing about gems and gold.

Buying stuff in pawn shops, while the merch may have been legally obtained, is still very much a buyer beware situation. Many will take advantage of a ignorant buyer, though often times the people in the pawn shops are just as ignorant of the value of the merch. And some put a stupid price tag on it just to see if one of PT Barnum's escaped suckers comes in and bites. Or they may have loaned way more money on the item than they should have to get the percentage return on the bucks they seek.

When I worked at Danny Hawk's guitar store back in the 80's, guys would always come in with guitars they just bought at a pawn shop, say it doesn't play right, and ask if they got a good deal.

Invariably I'd tell them that "the guitar is gonna cost you a lot to fix, and by the way, there's a mint condition one hanging on our wall over there for a hundred fifty bucks less than you paid."

BTW, the rule for buying in a pawn shop are increased to the Nth exponential degree when shopping on eBay.

In Austin, with a large musician population, most of the pawn shops have realistic prices on their musical stuff because of a very knowledgeable customer base. Or at least, prices that you can negotiate down to a reasonable price.

When pawn shops have too much merch and need cash, like end-of-month times and such, a straightforward low offer accompanied by credentials that you know more than they do about the item will occasionally work.

Then again, if out of their ignorance they loaned more bucks than they should have on the item, it will be tough to negotiate down.

I appreciate the forum allowing me to occasionally bloviate. This is one o' them times.

------------------
Herb's Steel Guitar Pages
Texas Steel Guitar Association


View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
James Sission

 

From:
Sugar Land,Texas USA
Post  Posted 27 Jan 2006 1:35 pm    
Reply with quote

Herb is exactly right. I am a police detective Sgt. myself. Once a month, one of my guys goes by the pawnshops and picks up the bottom copy of the pawn ticket you sign when you borrow on something. Then, someone will enter the serial numbers off the tickets into the computer system that will in turn flag anything that has been reported stolen. We then go to the pawn shop and pick up the item and the pawnbroker gets a receipt for his records that he has lost his money on the item. He may be able to get a little tax relief for his loss, but it won't make up for what he loaned on it. He is required to hold items 90 days, no matter when it "falls out of pawn" as we call it. If he has continual incidents of taking stolen items, then he can face being shut down by the state licensing commission for improper business practices. The majority of shops these days are owned by a couple of companies, there are very few individually owned shops around anymore. It's big business and they can't make any money if we are showing up once a month and taking 1/2 of their inventory. Now jewelry, on other hand is tough. The officers in pawnshop detail have compare the shops description to what a victim might have given at the time a report was taken. That gets pretty sticky and I suspect many items, such as “dinner ring with stones on a yellow metal setting” go undetected and may well drop from pawn and get sold even though they may have been stolen. Likewise, if the victim did not have a serial number, the item may drop and be sold, and no one would ever know it was there. Contrary to what some may think, most pawnbrokers have a really good relationship with the pawn detail guys and will call them on items they think someone may be trying to pawn that are not legitimately theirs. In fact, we just a pawnbroker call us and tell about a guy who was in shop trying to pawn a Rolex and the guy told the broker he “take anything for it”. They held the guy up in negotiations over the watch and the officers arrested him for possession of stolen property. Like Herb said, if you know what you’re looking for and know what it’s worth, a pawnshop is really not a bad gig. It just seems to me like they have become unwilling to make deal since they are mostly corporate owned now.….James

[This message was edited by James Sission on 27 January 2006 at 01:39 PM.]

View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
James Morehead


From:
Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
Post  Posted 27 Jan 2006 1:42 pm    
Reply with quote

The old days, you could find some real good deals. Now, most of the pawn shops are linked on the internet, as well as having "blue books" on about everything that's bought and sold thats legal. They have their "fingers on the pulse" better than ever now-a-days. But there still ARE some deals if you keep your eyes pealed.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Jack Mansfield

 

From:
Reno, NV
Post  Posted 27 Jan 2006 4:42 pm    
Reply with quote

For all its worth guys, I have on hold a nashville 112 that a local pawn shop has that was for sale for 199.95. I put it on lawaway till next tuesday is payday. this amp is in new perfect condition! What a bargain I got. You can find good stuff, but you have to look carefully, and have good luck with you.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
James Morehead


From:
Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
Post  Posted 27 Jan 2006 6:45 pm    
Reply with quote

Jack, want to make $50 over that??? HA!!
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Jump to:  
Please review our Forum Rules and Policies
Our Online Catalog
Strings, CDs, instruction, and steel guitar accessories
www.SteelGuitarShopper.com

The Steel Guitar Forum
148 S. Cloverdale Blvd.
Cloverdale, CA 95425 USA

Click Here to Send a Donation

Email SteelGuitarForum@gmail.com for technical support.


BIAB Styles
Ray Price Shuffles for Band-in-a-Box
by Jim Baron