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Topic: Question - removing 2nd string half stop on Mullen G2 |
Brandon Schafer
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Indiana, USA
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Posted 20 Aug 2020 12:00 pm |
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I’m the super proud new owner of this Mullen G2:
My copedant is:
The only thing left to do is change how my RKR functions. I want to remove the half-stop on the string 2 so that it stops very firmly at D.
Here’s the catch, I had the rest of my copedant installed for me because I’ll admit I’ve never worked on the undercarriage of a steel before. Can you all please help advise me on how to go about this task? Hopefully, I’m not getting into something way over my head.
I installed the pickup myself, so I feel like I may be able figure things out, but I’m in need of your collective expertise. Thanks in advance!
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Dave Mudgett
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Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 20 Aug 2020 12:34 pm
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Right now, your setup diagram shows string 2 D#=>D only on RKR (along with the string 9 D=>C#), not the half-stop D#=>D=>C#. I assume then that the diagram is mistaken?
Assuming you actually have the D#=>D=>C# with the half-stop at D, and that the half-stop is simply actuated by timing the 9th string lower to engage when string 2 hits the D note, then all you should need to do is to back off the string 2 lower nylon tuner until it just stops firmly at D. I do this with my string 2 half-stops sometimes when I know I'm not going to need the full-tone C# lower.
If there's some type of external half-stop device (usually looks like a plunger with a spring) to increase the firmness of the half-stop, you may need to also disengage that. I have a G2 and there's nothing like that on my guitar.
I would not change the RKR leverages to completely eliminate the possibility of the half-tone/full-tone lower. You may find in time that you want that full tone lower - it's useful for many things.
Nice guitar. |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 20 Aug 2020 12:41 pm
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| The G2 has split tuners. All you need to do is run the string 2 split screw in so that it stops the lower at D. |
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Brandon Schafer
From:
Indiana, USA
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Posted 20 Aug 2020 12:57 pm
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Dave, you’re right the diagram doesn’t accurately represent that it is currently configured in the D# > D > C# configuration with a half stop.
Jerry, you make it sound so easy! I’ll check that out! |
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Dave Mudgett
From:
Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 20 Aug 2020 1:04 pm
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| Jerry Overstreet wrote: |
| The G2 has split tuners. All you need to do is run the string 2 split screw in so that it stops the lower at D. |
Yup, you can do it that way too. And I do use split tuners to get splits. But I tend to find them, from the perspective of sensitivity to tuning drift, more finicky than a stop created by a standard nylon-adjusted tuning.
It may not be an issue here - but if string 2 hits the D before string 9 hits C#, then setting string 2's split screw to stop at D could interfere with the string 9 change. This would necessitate messing with the timing and/or leverages, which I would not want to do because I'd want to maintain the ability to go back to the string 2 half-stop D#=>D=>C#, as I discussed earlier.
So I still suggest just backing off the string 2 nylon so string 2 stops at D and see if that does it for you. As I said, I do it pretty frequently, including on my G2. |
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Brandon Schafer
From:
Indiana, USA
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Posted 20 Aug 2020 1:16 pm
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Dave, you’re right again about string 9 is currently timed to lower after string 2 hits D.
I also don’t see any external half stop device as you’d mentioned. I’ll try backing off the string two nylon tuner first, accordingly. I’ll report back later when I have a chance to play with it tonight. Thanks for your insight! |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 20 Aug 2020 6:21 pm
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The split screw, at the right end of the neck, is mis-named. It doesn't split anything. The split note is tuned with the nylon tuner. All the screw does is tune the final lower note. They're lower stops, that's all they do.
It's the most direct and positive lower stop on your guitar. When the finger hits that screw, it's not going any further.
Your coped charts shows you're only lowering 2 and 9 on the lever.
If that's your goal to lower 2 to D with no half stop, all you have to do is run the screw in so that the note is a D.
Since you are eliminating the string 2 half stop involving the 9 string method, and assuming you have enough changer travel already, tune the 9th string lower D to C# the same way with the so-called split screw. 10 min. job at most. |
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Brandon Schafer
From:
Indiana, USA
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Posted 20 Aug 2020 7:16 pm
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So, I tuned the RKR string 2 lower at the changer (not the split screw) and got the result I was after.
I’m glad that’s resolved, but now I feel like I may be confused about how splits work. I am definitely curious learn more. This is the first instrument I’ve owned that had this kind of capability. I’m going to search the forum tomorrow when I’ve some more time to see if I can educate myself further about how splits work before I ask any more questions.
In the meantime, I thank you both, Dave and Jerry for your input!  |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 20 Aug 2020 7:18 pm
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| The important thing is that you achieved your goal satisfactorily. |
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