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MUSICO

 

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Jeremy Williams in Spain
Post  Posted 12 Dec 2005 6:23 am    
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¿How much tuning leeway is there on a keyless tuner once strung?

I´ve never had a chance to see one in action. Sometimes I will tune my 12th string from B to C# for a particular tune...then tune it back at the end of the song. ¿Could I still do that on a keyless?

Apologies for my ignorance.

Jeremy Williams
Barcelona Spain
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Al Terhune


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Newcastle, WA
Post  Posted 12 Dec 2005 6:38 am    
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Jeremy,

On GFIs, there's pleeeeeenty of room. I've never done it, but from going by memory of "feel," I'd say you can go to a half note up or down just by half or even quarter turn of the dial.

Al
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Jerry Overstreet


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Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 12 Dec 2005 8:31 am    
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Jeremy, for folks that are not familiar with the gearless tuning system, your question is a reasonable one.

I once had a Lamar keyless D10. I owned Universals at the same time. I used to tune the C neck on the Lamar down to B to match the fret positions on the U12/14. This would take the big 10th .070 string from C down to B with raises and lowers as much as 1 1/2 tones. No problem whatsoever.

I would say this would not be a problem on either of the keyless tuners I have owned.
One of the other Unis was a Sierra 14. Seemed to be plenty of range for tuning on that one also.
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Michael Johnstone


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Sylmar,Ca. USA
Post  Posted 12 Dec 2005 9:05 am    
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My Excel will do it quite easily. Although if I was gonna do it often enough for it to come up as a question,I'd just put it on a pedal. Most 12 strings already have it.
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Jim Bob Sedgwick

 

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Clinton, Missouri USA
Post  Posted 12 Dec 2005 9:16 am    
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No problem on a Williams. Plenty of room available
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Roy Ayres


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Riverview, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 12 Dec 2005 11:12 am    
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On my Excel, I raise the tuner fingers to the top of their travel after removing the strings. After pulling a new string as tight as possible by hand, the tuner finger is about half way down when the string is in tune. With the fingers half way down, you have more room to raise or lower than you will probably ever need. (I will NEVER go back to keyed guitars.)

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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 12 Dec 2005 11:43 am    
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I used to do it the Kline I owned with no problems.

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MUSICO

 

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Jeremy Williams in Spain
Post  Posted 13 Dec 2005 1:27 am    
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Thank you all. This was exactly the information I needed.

Jeremy Williams
Barcelona Spain
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Doug Seymour


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Jamestown NY USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 13 Dec 2005 12:53 pm    
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Way to go Roy! I don't guess we can change the world, though?
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Don McClellan

 

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California/Thailand
Post  Posted 15 Dec 2005 6:30 pm    
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Your question is a good one. Keep in mind that when you put a low string on you can actually string it too tight with your fingers to begin with. So, you could easily tune a string up a step or more (and then back) but you might not be able to tune a sting down a whole step if you put it on very tight to begin with.
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Don McClellan

 

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Post  Posted 15 Dec 2005 6:32 pm    
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Your question is a good one. Keep in mind that when you put a low string on you can actually string it too tight with your fingers to begin with. So, you could easily tune a string up a step or more (and then back) but you might not be able to tune a sting down a whole step if you put it on very tight to begin with.
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