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Rick Schmidt


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Prescott AZ, USA
Post  Posted 12 Dec 2005 4:15 pm    
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I just wanted to know if any of you guys have ever tried this. For awhile I've had the usual 2nd string (with the 1/2 stop) and 9th lower on E9, AND both A's up a half step to Bb on my C6.

Well....on a wild hair I thought I'd try raising up those A's all the way to B a whole step since I missed my traditional 4th pedal so much.

What I found was that I lucked into a half stop on my C6 neck too. At least it was SO CLOSE I could almost taste it! The lower A to Bb is just the slightest bit flat, but almost workable for me. The top one tunes up perfectly. Kizmet! It's such a great change to have on that lever...a tad stiff, but worth it IMHO.

I'm wondering if anybody else has ever tried that change, an has timed all four of those pulls to be functional?
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Earnest Bovine


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Los Angeles CA USA
Post  Posted 12 Dec 2005 4:31 pm    
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I've had that on my C6 for 20 years or so, but then I almost never play C6.
I pull only the high A (.020p) to Bb and B, and it may be my most-used knee lever.
The half stop on that lever (RKR) comes from two pulls on the E9 neck: middle G# and low G# down to G.
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Dan Galysh

 

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Hendersonville, Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 12 Dec 2005 4:39 pm    
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Rick, I have this change, but only with 3 pulls. I don't raise string 8. The half stops are tuneable. It pretty much replaced pedal 4 on C6, but I do miss the 8th string raise sometimes.

Dan
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Rick Schmidt


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Prescott AZ, USA
Post  Posted 12 Dec 2005 6:11 pm    
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It's good to know that it's not such a kookie idea after all! Tell me this, would changing the string gauge on my low A bring up the pitch on the Bb a little bit? If so, do I go heavier or lighter? Would changing the gauge on one string knock the others out of balance?
(pardon my ignorance on these things, I've only been playing 30 years)

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Ricky Davis


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Bertram, Texas USA
Post  Posted 12 Dec 2005 10:12 pm    
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Rick if your talking about your Sho-bud...You can speed up those two A notes, to raise a little faster by tightening up the lower section on those two fingers; and that will let the raise section happen faster.
But if your also lowering those notes somewhere else; it might stiffen up that throw a little?
Or if you want a note to raise faster; use a guage or two heavier.
Ricky

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Rick Schmidt


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Prescott AZ, USA
Post  Posted 12 Dec 2005 10:24 pm    
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Thanks Ricky...actually I was talking about my Dekley. I've all but given up on the idea of adding a double tier/both neck RKR on my dear old Professional. So far it's still just the same old 8+2, which we both know is enough to make good music on. I'll try to apply your suggestions on the Dekley. I really appreciate your wisdom!
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Earnest Bovine


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Los Angeles CA USA
Post  Posted 12 Dec 2005 10:31 pm    
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would changing the string gauge on my low A bring up the pitch on the Bb a little bit? If so, do I go heavier or lighter?
If that B flat is low, and B natural is in tune, you are producing more than a semitone pitch change as the lever moves from half-stop to full-stop. You want a little less pitch change, so try a heavier string.
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Rick Schmidt


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Prescott AZ, USA
Post  Posted 13 Dec 2005 9:04 am    
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Thanks Earnest! I'll give that a try.
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