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Topic: Breaking The 3rd String On My Emmons LeGrande II |
Paul King
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Gainesville, Texas, USA
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Posted 11 Nov 2005 1:13 pm |
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| After 18 months of owning this guitar now I am having problems with the 3rd string breaking on the E9th tuning. It is breaking up on the changer end of the guitar. When the string comes across the top of the roller is where I am seeing the string break. The roller is scuffed up and I am needing some help as to what I need to do to smooth it out. I have oiled the changer recently and still having the problem. Is there a product I can use to smooth the roller up without causing futher damage or what do you guys recommend to solve this problem? This guitar is a LeGrande III with the counterforce on the E9th neck only. [This message was edited by Paul King on 11 November 2005 at 01:15 PM.] |
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Jim Peters
From:
St. Louis, Missouri, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 11 Nov 2005 2:22 pm
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| Paul, buy some semichrome polish.You can get it from Scotty's. You use a tiny amount, polish the rough part of the rollertill it is smooth. I broke strings on my GFI 'till I polished the changer, since then about a year ago, I think I broke one 3rd. If you rub a cotton ball on the changer and it gets snagged , you need to polish,gently and conservatively,once or twice a year. JimP [This message was edited by Jim Peters on 11 November 2005 at 02:23 PM.] |
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Steve Hitsman
From:
Waterloo, IL
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Posted 11 Nov 2005 2:52 pm
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| After you get it smoothed out you can minimize future damage by making sure that the tag end of the winding points away from the changer whenever you put on a new string. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 11 Nov 2005 3:52 pm
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It is almost certain there is a burr on the changer where the string sits. Semi chrome first, then check for smoothness with a cotton swab as mentioned above or just check it with your fingernail. if it ain't smooth you may need a very fine file or light grit paper to get the burr removed.
IF the burr remains, strings will contunue to break.
I just did this to finger 3 and 5 on my Steel..since then ZERO breakage.
One of the things that can help prevent this is to place the ball end on the Steel with the wrap edge point facing outwards. It takes a few seconds longer but this will help.
This can be fixed easily .
t[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 11 November 2005 at 03:53 PM.] |
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Ernest Cawby
From:
Lake City, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 11 Nov 2005 5:33 pm
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Jeff Newman says use a finger nail file to smooth it up, or fine emory cloth.
ernie |
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Bill Plemmons
From:
Simpsonville, SC
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Posted 11 Nov 2005 6:38 pm
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| I check the changer fingers at each string change. I remove any burrs or "string tracks" by gently sanding the fingers with 1000 grit WET sandpaper then polish with a Dremel tool buffing pad using white Turtle Wax polishing compound. Comes out mirror smooth. |
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Bobby Boggs
From:
Upstate SC.
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Posted 11 Nov 2005 10:18 pm
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Paul unless you can feel a bur.You most likely have a bad batch of strings.No matter what you've read. All string Brands turn out bad batches now and then.
However I gotta ask. I've played Emmons guitars since 1970. I currently have 3. I have never sanded for a bur period. My dad has a 67 and 70. Never sanded. Are you guys using barbed wire for strings are what?  Just curious?? |
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 11 Nov 2005 11:44 pm
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Paul;
I never have, but I've heard that some people have gone from a .011p to a .0115p. But, I don't play an Emmons either! So, what do I know?
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Paul King
From:
Gainesville, Texas, USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2005 7:24 am
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| Thanks guys for the advice. To Bobby Boggs, I use Texas barbed wire for strings and man they sound great but they are a little sharp. Just kidding. Actually I use SIT strings and there is always two .011's in each package. This problem just started and there is a burr so I know what I have to do now. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2005 7:41 am
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I played an Emmons LeGrande II for a long time and didn't have any problem with string breaking. However, I like to use a .012 gauge for the 3rd string. Lasts longer and much richer tone.
Erv |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 14 Nov 2005 1:26 am
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Paul, don't be afraid to swap the changer finger with another if you feel the burr is too deep...A slight burr on the big wound strings is generally not a problem.
I did that on one of my Sho-Buds and it's just like an Erector Set..you swap things around 'till you're happy...
You just don't have to TUNE an Erector Set...
But I suspect a gentle file, 1000 grit or higher will get ya back in action pronto...
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