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Anthony Lis

 

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South Dakota, USA
Post  Posted 2 Jun 2019 6:57 pm    
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For some research I'm doing into the very early steel guitar, I just wonder if anyone has read, heard from sources, etc. about when the cylindrical steel overtook the flat bar as the steel-of-choice? Some folks have said Joseph Kekuku invented both the flat and cylindrical steel, but I don't know about that . . . the flat bar certainly subsequently appeared in steel method-books around the time the US entered World War I, but I've not seen any mention of a cylinder-shaped steel in any method-book I know of through the 1920s. Some method book cover-photographs do appear to show a player holding a cylindrical steel, but it's hard to tell, and blowing the photos way up doesn't always yield much in the way of definitive answers. Just curious.
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Bill Sinclair


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Waynesboro, PA, USA
Post  Posted 3 Jun 2019 5:41 am    
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Great question! I imagine that there was a good amount of overlap before the cylindrical steel became the norm. In fact, here's a page from a 1953 jobber catalog that still features the flat bars prominently. They would have still been perceived as easier to hold for a beginner.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1953-GUITAR-STEELS-jobber-catalog-page-Manoloff-Elton-Grover-Smeck-etc/123785533571?hash=item1cd2315883:g:K~0AAOSwqDVZd5Di

Maybe check old Sears catalogs, etc. to see when the cylinders first appeared.
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Bill Groner


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QUAKERTOWN, PA
Post  Posted 3 Jun 2019 7:19 am    
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My Dad built an acoustic guitar while in High School. He later converted it to Hawaiian Lap Steel. After he died I opened up the case and found a pair of finger picks, thumb pick, nut riser and a flat tone bar with knurled sides like in the link Bill posted.
He built the guitar in 1936.

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Robbie Daniels

 

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Casper, Wyoming, USA
Post  Posted 3 Jun 2019 9:13 am     Tone Bar
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I started playing steel guitar in 1946 through the Honolulu Conservatory of Music in Oakland, CA and they were teaching 6 string C6 with round tone bar. I have never used the flat bar version.
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Guy Cundell


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More idle ramblings from South Australia
Post  Posted 3 Jun 2019 12:46 pm    
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Gibson 1934



Gibson 1942




Epiphone 1944




This is National, I believe. The image was gathered from the Forum but with no date, unfortunately.




This is Bob Dunn in 1939. It looks to have a bevelled edge but it is clearly not a bullet.


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Anthony Lis

 

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South Dakota, USA
Post  Posted 3 Jun 2019 5:05 pm    
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Some interesting comments (and graphics!) here; thanks. Yes, thumb- and finger-picks get mentioned in the earliest method books I've had a chance to personally peruse (from 1916-17), so they were de rigueur early on, apparently, but a cylindrical steel wasn't.
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