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Charlie McDonald
From: out of the blue
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Posted 27 Apr 2018 9:32 am
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"Who says we don't do covers?" it sez.
The intent doesn't seem to be humorous, therefore, posted in music, but it's not over yet. It has marimbas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2hiDYE5Qdw _________________ Those that say don't know; those that know don't say.--Buddy Emmons |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 29 Apr 2018 5:06 pm Only if you like classical music, or are curious
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I think that's hilarious, Charlie! At first, I thought Zap was hamming it up a little; with that cig and his thrashing about with the baton (sorta like he's swatting flies) at the opening. But then.......just for comparison...I checked out some famous symphony conductors doing the same piece:
Gustavo Dudamel is even more spastic -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhhkGyJ092E
Valery Gergiev, looking a little like Jim on "Taxi" in a tux, adds some melodrama, and conducts it with...a toothpick!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZDiaRZy0Ak&start_radio=1&list=RDdZDiaRZy0Ak
Meanwhile, Vincente Alberola does a more sedate and reserved performance -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KsXPq3nedY&t=1008s
Evidently, not only Zap, but many conductors see this as a fun piece, and kinda get wrapped up in it.
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Charlie McDonald
From: out of the blue
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Posted 30 Apr 2018 4:24 am
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Ravel was a great arranger, and so was Zappa. The cigarette was a bit much, but I liked the marimbas.
A tune with only one chord (more or less) should be fun. _________________ Those that say don't know; those that know don't say.--Buddy Emmons |
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John Rosett
From: Missoula, MT
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Posted 1 May 2018 3:59 pm
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Charlie McDonald wrote: |
A tune with only one chord (more or less) should be fun. |
Frank always said that he didn't like chord changes. _________________ "it's not in bad taste, if it's funny." - john waters |
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Bryan Staddon
From: Buffalo,New York,
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Posted 1 May 2018 4:10 pm Sure miss him!
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Man we sure could use a guy like Frank around nowadays, _________________ You are me as I am you |
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John Rosett
From: Missoula, MT
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Posted 1 May 2018 4:20 pm Re: Sure miss him!
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Bryan Staddon wrote: |
Man we sure could use a guy like Frank around nowadays, |
I have had that same thought lately. Him and Hunter S. Thompson. _________________ "it's not in bad taste, if it's funny." - john waters |
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Charlie McDonald
From: out of the blue
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Posted 2 May 2018 4:34 am
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"Mister we could use a man like Frank and Hunter again...." _________________ Those that say don't know; those that know don't say.--Buddy Emmons |
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Glenn Suchan
From: Austin, Texas
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Posted 2 May 2018 10:40 am
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Thanks Charlie!
I'm very familiar with Ravel's "Bolero" (as most of us are) as it is typically performed by symphonic orchestras. What I really liked about Zappa's arrangement/performance are the many subtle counter melodies in the bass clef which are very different from traditional arrangements. For example, at 4:17 there is a 2-beat nod to "My Sharona".
As some may know, at the time of the first performance of "Bolero", in 1928, many viewed it with distain because the principal instrument is a saxophone - a relatively new instrument in symphonic orchestras. In fact, at that time, many symphonic composers and musicians viewed it as simply a 'toy'. The saxophone was created by Adolphe Sax in 1840. Up until 1928, I know of only one composer who had written a symphonic piece utilizing the saxophone as a principal instrument - Bizet's "L'Arlesienne" (1879)
So, much like Maurice Ravel in the early 20th century, Zappa, in the late 20th century, challenged his listeners to fresh and sometimes daring music. I think if Ravel heard Zappa's interpretation of the "Bolero" he would stand and cheer, "Bravo!" What a genius Frank was.
Keep on pickin'!
Glenn _________________ Steelin' for Jesus |
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Charlie McDonald
From: out of the blue
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Posted 2 May 2018 12:22 pm
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Frank had me right off with the timbales in reggae. I don't know a secure composer who wouldn't applaud such irreverance. _________________ Those that say don't know; those that know don't say.--Buddy Emmons |
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