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Topic: Diatonic A13 |
Robert Murphy
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Posted 27 Apr 2018 11:43 am |
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A while back I published Bob Murphy's A11 6 string tuning. Soon after I began to think about an 8 string version but wanted to fill in some gaps in the versatility of such a tuning. What if we had a chord based tuning with all the harmony included? A chromatic scale is good but we have tried that with Eharp, Levitt and more. The next hurdle is string gauge. We have been taught from birth that strings run from thick to thin except for the genius of the pedal steel. Let's forget that. In the text box first column I have listed the notes of a D Major scale starting on the 5th A2 @ 110hz and diatonically advancing in pitch to A3 @ 220hz. The string gauges are given as well. The reason for this mode if you will for D Major scale is that most songs I play start on the 5th and contain 1 octave. Amazing Grace, Wayfaring Stranger and a 1000 more. The next column shows the arrangement of the strings and gauges on the guitar. We have the 1, 2m, 3m, 4, 5, 6m and dim. there. Also a dom7 and a maj7 that was missing in the 6 string version. Plus an octave of melody notes starting and ending on the 5th. The real surprise came in how sweet the grips sounded.
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Stefan Robertson
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Posted 28 Apr 2018 1:29 am
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This isn't Chromatic? right?
A, A#, B, C, C#... etc is chromatic .
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Stefan
Bill Hatcher custom 12 string Lap Steel Guitar
E13#9/F secrets: https://thelapsteelguitarist.wordpress.com
"Give it up for The Lap Steel Guitarist" |
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Robert Murphy
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West Virginia
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Posted 28 Apr 2018 3:17 am
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| Diatonic is correct. |
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Stefan Robertson
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Hertfordshire, UK
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Posted 28 Apr 2018 3:55 am
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What's more interesting is that look at your E fret.
That contains ALL the notes of an E13. except for the sus4 = A which sounds like a clam when I strum it.
Why not use E13 minus the Clam? Just a thought? But I love the fact you are challenging yourself.
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Stefan
Bill Hatcher custom 12 string Lap Steel Guitar
E13#9/F secrets: https://thelapsteelguitarist.wordpress.com
"Give it up for The Lap Steel Guitarist" |
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 28 Apr 2018 4:13 am
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| Stephan can we get a break from you hijacking every thread on tunings to push your E13? This thread is about Robert Murphay’s A11 tuning. |
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Stefan Robertson
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Posted 28 Apr 2018 4:27 am
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| Bill McCloskey wrote: |
| Stephan can we get a break from you hijacking every thread on tunings to push your E13? This thread is about Robert Murphay’s A11 tuning. |
Apologies. Its the eagerness and impulsive nature of my youth coming through. Just wanted to share my observations and discoveries. I'll leave for a while. Later
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Stefan
Bill Hatcher custom 12 string Lap Steel Guitar
E13#9/F secrets: https://thelapsteelguitarist.wordpress.com
"Give it up for The Lap Steel Guitarist" |
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 28 Apr 2018 10:42 am
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| Just for clarity sakes; the Eharp tuning is not really a chromatic tuning, although it has chromatic elements. It is based on an A scale and an E scale |
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Robert Murphy
From:
West Virginia
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Posted 28 Apr 2018 12:19 pm
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I love E13 and I have been following Bills Eharp thread. I apologize for my clumsy explanations but the revelation for me as a folk/country/rock musician is simplicity. I can pick up any of my music books and within minutes I have identified all of the chord changes and the melody notes are contained in the arpeggios or passing tones not far away so there's no need to move up and down the neck from the 1 to the 5 and the 4 and back. Find the key, the first note of the song, find the highest and lowest note, pick the fret with the best scale and it's all there. My roll as a back up musician is to make the chord changes on time, add fills and maybe a melody/harmony break. I guess my approach is more like a piano player (accordion is my true love) since I read music and haven't mastered any of the dozen instruments I play.
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