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Topic: Volume Pedal or Expression Pedal |
Jim Saunders
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Houston, Texas, U.S.A.
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Posted 14 Mar 2022 1:01 pm |
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| Are they the same thing? |
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Georg Sørtun
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Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 14 Mar 2022 2:09 pm
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| For a steel guitar, yes. |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 15 Mar 2022 8:25 pm
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I guess one might say that the terms are generally interchangeable. However, you see the term "expression pedal" more often with the volume pedals used for keyboards. Also, it should be mentioned that many "expression" pedals sold (read: "made") for keyboards may not be ideal when used with a guitar or pedal steel. This is because those pedals made for keyboards can have a far lower resistance value than pedals used for guitar or steel, and that can seriously affect the volume and tone.
edited to add: We had a recent post where a player asked if he could just change jacks in a keyboard expression pedal and use it for pedal steel. Nope, that doesn't work for the above reason.
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Jeff Highland
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Posted 15 Mar 2022 8:47 pm
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An expression pedal will generally have one TRS connector rather than an input and output jack.It is designed to control one parameter of another pedal. not to have the signal pass through it.
So not really interchangable.
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Don Downes
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New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 17 Mar 2022 8:34 pm
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Organ pedals, have always been referred to as "expression" pedals.
I like the term as it connotes the "expression" that the player intends to convey in the piece.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_console
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 18 Mar 2022 2:01 am
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Confusingly, there are two types of expression pedal: the parameter-changing type and the volume type which we use for steel guitar.
As used by us it is indeed an expression pedal, as what the listener hears is enhanced sustain and phrasing, not changes in volume.
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Jeff Highland
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Posted 18 Mar 2022 12:40 pm
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Regardless of how you may use it, if you go to BUY a pedal to place between instrument and amplifier to control volume, it will be labeled as a "Volume Pedal".
Ones designed for keyboard use are intended for a line level signal and use a relatively low pot value and are unsuitable for Guitar use.
The Circuit in a pedal marketed as an expression pedal varies between manufacturers, but is not suitable for between instrument and amplifier usage.
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George Redmon
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Posted 18 Mar 2022 12:52 pm
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My Mission expression pedal won't work as a volume pedal. In fact i only have 1 jack on it, an input. I own both as well, a volume pedal, and expression pedal. I use the Mission Expression Pedal on several diffent effect pedals. Don't confuse Hilton's "Guitar" pedal as anything but a volume pedal, it also is not a dedicated expression pedal.
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Don Downes
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Posted 18 Mar 2022 1:03 pm
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I agree with you, Ian. No matter what you call it, it is your "expression" of what you want the audience to feel. You can call it a "dfggfl" pedal, but it serves the same purpose.
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