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Rick Nicklas

 

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Verona, Mo. (deceased)
Post  Posted 12 Sep 2005 9:33 pm    
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I ordered another new keyless recently and my wife told me last night that she has always enjoyed the sound of my keyless guitars but they look so incomplete to her.... After much thought and a few beers, I told her I have decided to take a hacksaw to remove the keyhead on one of my older steels and I will attach it with a hinge to my new one. Then, when I need to change a string I would just lift the keyhead like the hood of a car to make the change. This did not seem to get her as exited as me about the idea but she still loves me anyway. Maybe someone will really do this to sell some more keyless guitars if that is the only reason that some players won't buy one..... Oh well, guess I'll go finish my ale.
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Marco Schouten


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Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Post  Posted 12 Sep 2005 11:41 pm    
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I think there are several ways to use the saved space:
make a beer can holder, pick and bar holder, space for a built-in tuner, foldable sheet music holder...

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Marco Schouten
Sho-Bud LLG; Guyatone 6 string lap steel; John Pearse bar; Emmons bar; Evans SE200 amp


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Charlie McDonald


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Post  Posted 13 Sep 2005 1:25 am    
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I personally like the trim look of a keyless; it represents the pedal steel's continuing evolution. It seems the problem in looks lies in the break of tradition.
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steve takacs


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Post  Posted 13 Sep 2005 5:26 am    
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Charlie, I'm with you on the clean, compact looks of a keyless being a break with tradition and perhaps difficult for some steelers to get into. I love the looks of my Kline. Marco, the beer can holder idea was spoken like a true Dutchman. steve t
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George Redmon


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Muskegon & Detroit Michigan.
Post  Posted 13 Sep 2005 8:43 am    
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Congradulations Rick...Charlie and everyone is right about the tradition thing...my Sho Bud buddies asked me...."you ain't really gonna buy one of them things are you George?"
yep...and so glad i did....what steel did you buy Rick..[brand]..you just gotta share that with us buddy...you can hang little doo dadds in that space to...lol taking off that keyhead...would be like grandpa taking off his hair piece....welcome to the "Stay In Tune Bunch"!

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Whitney Single 12 8FL & 5 KN,keyless, dual changers Extended C6th, Webb Amp, Line6 PodXT, Goodrich Curly Chalker Volume Pedal, Match Bro, BJS Bar, Boyette Glass Bar, Carvin Guitars, & Amplification, and other neat stuff..I was keyless....when keyless wasn't cool....


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Rick Nicklas

 

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Verona, Mo. (deceased)
Post  Posted 13 Sep 2005 8:59 am    
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George, I ordered a Williams because of all the positive feedback I saw on this forum. I did a search and this just seemed to be the best bang for the buck. I have had two Kline's and played them until they are ready for pasture... I think I'm a little rough with the pressure on my pedals. First time I tried a Kline was in Jimmy Webb's Music Store and I was kind of shocked when I first saw it but when I sat behind it and gave it a chance it just felt sooooo goooood and my E's were coming back to pitch from any direction I sent them... before that I had two Fenders 800 and 1000, then went to ZB... loved the tone on those but not happy with the mechanics. I'm sure the Williams will be all I want mechanically but I hope I don't have to dicker to much to find a good solid tone all the way from bottom to top strings. I ordered the Truetone pickups and have no experience with them but heard good things on the forum about them also.

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Gary Spaeth

 

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Wisconsin, USA
Post  Posted 14 Sep 2005 5:30 am    
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if the conventions were reversed and the traditional look was keyless, a keyed guitar would look weird. "what's that big ugly thing on the end there? YUK!"
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Paddy Long


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Christchurch, New Zealand
Post  Posted 14 Sep 2005 3:08 pm    
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Keyless guitars always look like they have had their "manly" bits removed .....as in gender re-assignment !!! So I would never own one in case someone might question my "orientation" ??? Apart from that my girlfriend thinks they look gay !
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Rick Nicklas

 

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Verona, Mo. (deceased)
Post  Posted 14 Sep 2005 7:32 pm    
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Paddy..... Don't let your girlfriend fool you. We know subliminally that it really looks like an ironing board and that is a turn-off too anyone unless they enjoy clean starched clothes.
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Paddy Long


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Christchurch, New Zealand
Post  Posted 14 Sep 2005 8:37 pm    
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Rick your right - perhaps if I told her it was an ironing board she might get one herself!
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Charlie McDonald


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Post  Posted 15 Sep 2005 3:36 am    
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Apart from that my girlfriend thinks they look gay !

Well, Paddy, I'm definitely getting another Carter, as I sure don't want a guitar that looks 'gay'. And here I thought it looked 'lean and mean.'

(You know, usually women don't mind things that look 'gay'. It makes me wonder.... Ask her what it is about it, would you?
A 'gay' looking guitar...? What tha...?)
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Rick Nicklas

 

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Verona, Mo. (deceased)
Post  Posted 15 Sep 2005 4:24 am    
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Paddy........ No, just tell her that the guitar is a gelding and it comes with automatic temperance.
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Dave Potter

 

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Texas
Post  Posted 16 Sep 2005 8:31 am    
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No, just tell her that the guitar is a gelding and it comes with automatic temperance.


Beautiful double-entendre!
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ed packard

 

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Show Low AZ
Post  Posted 17 Sep 2005 6:26 am    
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I am a Keyless/gearless advocate. I also like 14 strings. Am I deceived, or are the 12 & 14 string folk more likely to go for keyless than the 10 & D-10 folk?...Length of keyhead could be the cosmetic reason.
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