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Jeff Metz Jr.


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York, Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 5 Feb 2018 3:32 pm    
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I am finishing up a lap steel build and am about to attach the Key head. Its threaded on the bottom for machine screws. I Am having trouble figuring out the best way to determine where to drill the holes in the wooden body so that they meet the holes in the key head perfectly. I suppose they could be a bit oversized for adjustment but I'd rather not. I hope I am describing my issue clearly.
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 5 Feb 2018 3:56 pm    
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Turn keyhead upside down so that the screw holes are facing up.
Lay a piece of the lightest paper you can find over the keyhead.
Using the side of a pencil's point, 'shade' over the keyhead, getting a silhouette of the keyhead and capturing the holes. Mark left/right so you can keep your orientation when you flip it. If you can't see though the paper well enough, you can cut out the shape and you can punch through the enter of the screwhole marks with a sharp point.
Lay the template over the body and position it where you want it. Center punch the screw holes into the wood and drill. Bingo.
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Jeff Metz Jr.


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York, Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 5 Feb 2018 4:51 pm    
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Thanks Jon,
I indeed have already done as you described. I ran into another issue which is that the head of my lapsteel is shaped to the headstock and the aluminum keyhead allows for closer tolerances than wood. So the holes are nearly 1/16" from the edge of the head. I am sure the wood would chip out if I try drilling a large enough hole.

My original idea was to epoxy the keyhead to the body but I have since glued a veneer over the head of guitar so I would essentially be epoxying the keyhead to a veneer. Im not certain if the string pressure would pull up the veneer or break it under the keyhead.....Quite a pickle Im in.
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Bill Moore


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Manchester, Michigan
Post  Posted 5 Feb 2018 5:02 pm    
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Drill and tap some new holes in the thickest area of the keyhead, then do as Jon suggested.
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 5 Feb 2018 5:04 pm    
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I agree that gluing to the veneer ain't happening.
Off the top of my head, the first thing I can think of is cutting a piece of 1/8" aluminum sheet to match the headstock shape (solid, not cutting out the inside of the keyhead), screw it to the keyhead and then screw the whole unit to the wood from the top. No blind screws so not so elegant but....
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 5 Feb 2018 5:06 pm    
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Mount that plate to the underside of the guitar. That ought to protect the wood.
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Jeff Metz Jr.


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York, Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 5 Feb 2018 5:24 pm    
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Yeah the plate from the top would work, but it would defeat the purpose of the veneer, as it would cover it up. Im thinking about doing as Bill Moore suggested. Its almost the only other option. Im sure theres something Im not seeing. Ill grab a few shots and maybe that will help. Thanks for the help all!
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Bobby D. Jones

 

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West Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 5 Feb 2018 9:07 pm     Drilling holes for key head
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Have you already drilled holes and they do not line up. OUCH. Are you using the veneer to cover the holes?

Drill new holes and tap as suggested by Bill Moore.
Once new holes are drilled and tapped. Get a set of Allen head set screws with same thread. Screw in till about 1/6" extends past the key head surface. Position the key head carefully, hold and tap lightly with a mallet. This should make small dents in the wood. Mark the center of each dent. Center punch and drill. Good Luck on the project.
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Jim Schatz

 

From:
St. Marys PA USA
Post  Posted 6 Feb 2018 6:31 am    
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Jeff, you can use Transfer screws,they screw in the holes in your key head,then set the key head down where you want it and press it down.It will leave marks right where you want them perfect. Jim
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Bill Creller

 

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Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 7 Feb 2018 4:48 pm    
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I use a #40 drill where I want the holes, and a brad point drill to size of the tuner posts. ..
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Len Amaral

 

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Rehoboth,MA 02769
Post  Posted 7 Feb 2018 5:57 pm    
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Bill is on target, Brad point drills. Use a scrap piece to practice.
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