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Curt Langston


Post  Posted 19 Apr 2005 5:23 pm    
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Has anyone ever had, or heard of any problems with the Carters that have the hollow rods? I'm not having any problems, but noticed in another post that Carter has stopped using them. Just wondering if I should watch for something. I think the hollow rods help keep the weight down, which is a plus in my book. Any replies would be appreciated.
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Al Marcus


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2005 6:29 pm    
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Curt-I have owned and played both with Hollow and solid crossrods. Frankly, I couldnt tell any diference between them. The tone might be just a touch better with the solid rods. But I couldn t really say that for sure.
Like you said, I liked the hollow crossrods because of the less weight. About 2 Lbs on a D10.
Maybe John Fabian can tell us the year they switched to solid crossrods, or serial number. Interesting post......al

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Curt Langston


Post  Posted 7 Aug 2005 6:50 pm    
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Jerry Roller


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Post  Posted 8 Aug 2005 7:06 am    
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John showed me the reason they changed to solid crossrods and for probably 99% of the setups it would make no difference. He did run into a pull or combination, I can't remember which where the hollow bar flexed causing a detune. I can't remember any more than that but it was a pretty bazzare situation that would cause this. It was certainly not anything that would concern me if I had one with hollow crossrods. Perhaps John will elaborate but my take on it after he showed me in detail is that it is no big deal at all either way.
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Curt Langston


Post  Posted 8 Aug 2005 5:13 pm    
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Thanks for the reply Jerry and Al! You are probably right. I too, feel that it would take a very elaborate pull to cause a flex.

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[This message was edited by Curt Langston on 08 August 2005 at 06:13 PM.]

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Bobby Lee


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Post  Posted 9 Aug 2005 9:07 am    
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I think I remember this correctly...

If you pull a half step raise, then pull a full step raise and release it back to the half step raise, crossrod flex can cause the final note to be out of tune.

Did I get it right, John?

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Post  Posted 9 Aug 2005 10:33 am    
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John Fabian please.Thanks.
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John Fabian


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Post  Posted 10 Aug 2005 5:37 am    
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Solid cross shafts improved the action and accuracy of the mechanism. Hollow cross shafts were not really an issue on 10 strings but created a small issue on 12's.
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Curt Langston


Post  Posted 10 Aug 2005 2:05 pm    
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Ok, thanks John. I know that the hollow cross shafts have NEVER been a problem for me. I was just curious about the change. My Carter is smooth and tight. Nothing sloppy here.

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