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Topic: Buddy Emmons - The Big sciEntist |
Dan Robinson
From: Colorado, USA
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Dick Wood
From: Springtown Texas, USA
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Posted 22 Dec 2017 9:31 am
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A lick detector? _________________ Cops aren't paid much so I steel at night. |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Dan Robinson
From: Colorado, USA
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Posted 22 Dec 2017 9:46 am
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That's pretty good Dickey. Without galvanic skin detection how can you tell if it's a real lick?
First I thought about wrist levers, but I don't think so.
Then I considered electro-magnetic transducers to pick up vibrations from the changer fingers on strings 1, 8 and 10? |
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Fred Treece
From: California, USA
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Posted 22 Dec 2017 9:48 am
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Effects switches. |
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Fred Treece
From: California, USA
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Posted 22 Dec 2017 9:51 am
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Dan Robinson wrote: |
Then I considered electro-magnetic transducers to pick up vibrations from the changer fingers on strings 1, 8 and 10? |
That could be, but would you need a lever for that? Maybe it isn’t a lever, but a guard rail. |
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John McClung
From: Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 22 Dec 2017 10:05 am
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That is the Emmons String Machine. A friend actually owns one! _________________ E9 INSTRUCTION
▪️ If you want to have an ongoing discussion, please email me, don't use the Forum messaging which I detest! steelguitarlessons@earthlink.net |
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Dan Robinson
From: Colorado, USA
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Posted 22 Dec 2017 10:25 am
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Doug and John have seen it before. Thanks guys!
Fred Treece wrote: |
Dan Robinson wrote: |
Then I considered electro-magnetic transducers to pick up vibrations from the changer fingers on strings 1, 8 and 10? |
That could be, but would you need a lever for that? Maybe it isn’t a lever, but a guard rail. |
I'm guessing here, the "lever" might extend a pole piece, so you can swing it over the string.
I wonder if this connects to Buddy's use of the E-Bow (Once Upon a Time in the West)? |
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Charlie McDonald
From: out of the blue
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Posted 22 Dec 2017 10:39 am
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He was out there. |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Posted 22 Dec 2017 11:23 am
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I've owned two of those Emmons String Machines in the past. They were fun to play with at home, but way too much setup and hassle on a live gig, especially in today's world of small stomp boxes that do so much.
I think Foxx built the Emmons String Machine to Emmons specs. I remember seeing a picture of one that looked exactly like the E.S.M. with a Foxx logo on it. Probably built for standard guitar with smaller pickups. Foxx did make an effect called the Tone Machine that was smaller. I've search on line for a picture of the Foxx box that looks just like the Emmons String Machine, but I can't find one. I saw one for sale on eBay about 15 years ago. _________________ My Site / My YouTube Channel
25 Songs C6 Lap Steel / 25 MORE Songs C6 Lap Steel / 16 Songs, C6, A6, B11 / 60 Popular Melodies E9 Pedal Steel |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Posted 22 Dec 2017 11:29 am
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Here's what Buddy Emmons said back in 2002:
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As for the String Machine:
I can't say how many were made as I was not in the business end of the Emmons Guitar Company but at best it was relatively few.
I don't remember the exact year they came out but I used it on a 1975 recording so it would have to have been a year or so before that.
The Foxx Tone Machine was my choice because of it being the distortion unit I was using for my work at the time.
I have no recollection of the settings or functions. I used it solely for string sounds. Three rods mounted vertically on the end of my guitar, and attached to those rods were three horizontal rods with single pole pickups that swiveled over the strings I chose for the harmonies. Most of the time I used strings 4, 6, and 10 for wide inversions and a fatter sound.
I used it mostly for demo sessions but the song I mentioned above was Canon in D Major on the Flying fish label. The album title is Buddy Emmons / Steel Guitar and referred to it as the "Rainbow album." |
_________________ My Site / My YouTube Channel
25 Songs C6 Lap Steel / 25 MORE Songs C6 Lap Steel / 16 Songs, C6, A6, B11 / 60 Popular Melodies E9 Pedal Steel |
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Mike Neer
From: NJ
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Posted 22 Dec 2017 11:40 am
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I used to have and use a Foxx Tone machine all the way back in the 70s when I was a teen. I loved that thing and still use fuzz boxes (my favorite currently the Fuzz face). Anyway, the tone machine had an octave up, too, like the Octavia, but better! _________________ Links to streaming music, websites, YouTube: Links |
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Chris Templeton
From: The Green Mountain State
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Posted 22 Dec 2017 1:43 pm
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A scientist story: At his house, Buddy had some Nashville music newspaper that interviewed him, probably from the early '70's, where he said that in the future, we'll be able to think pedal steel changes.
Given where computers and technology are heading, he'll probably be proved right. _________________ Excel 3/4 Pedal With An 8 String Hawaiian Neck, Sierra Tapper (10 string with a raised fretboard to fret with fingers), Single neck Fessenden 3/5
"The Tapper" : https://christophertempleton.bandcamp.com/album/the-tapper
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Dan Robinson
From: Colorado, USA
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Posted 22 Dec 2017 4:01 pm
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Chris Templeton wrote: |
A scientist story: At his house, Buddy had some Nashville music newspaper that interviewed him, probably from the early '70's, where he said that in the future, we'll be able to think pedal steel changes.
Given where computers and technology are heading, he'll probably be proved right. |
A leap beyond the electro-mechanical actuation mechanisms that have been discussed so often.
And when it comes to pass, still some prodigal thinker will think beyond what the rest of us can imagine. |
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Danny Letz
From: Old Glory,Texas, USA 79540
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Posted 22 Dec 2017 4:06 pm
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I think it's honk baffle. Or maybe a injector deflector detector. |
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Chris Templeton
From: The Green Mountain State
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Stefan Robertson
From: Hertfordshire, UK
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Posted 22 Dec 2017 11:41 pm
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Chris Templeton wrote: |
Ah yes, the thinker.
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I finally figured out the concept behind this picture. As did Maurice Anderson. Hint Hint.
See if you can figure it out. The Thinker. _________________ Stefan
Bill Hatcher custom 12 string Lap Steel Guitar
E13#9/F secrets: https://thelapsteelguitarist.wordpress.com
"Give it up for The Lap Steel Guitarist" |
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Dan Robinson
From: Colorado, USA
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Posted 23 Dec 2017 10:16 am
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Chris Templeton wrote: |
Ah yes, the thinker.
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Yes, comrade... just get wired up and think it, but you must think in Russian, errrrr, I mean you must think in musical intervals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5DsLow4SVQ
Still gotta know what you're going to do next. The execution is in the hands, unless.... if I could think it, I would still sound like me.
Stefan, I need another hint. |
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Charlie McDonald
From: out of the blue
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Posted 23 Dec 2017 11:45 am
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Me too. |
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