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Topic: E9/B6/E7 Universal |
Ben Slaughter
From:
Madera, California
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Posted 17 Jun 2005 3:50 pm |
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So I've been slacking at work all day, trying to come up with something to give me a strummable E7 tuning based from a E9/B6 Uni, but not giving up any existing changes. So I'm thinking one pedal or "lock" lever that gives me that E7. Here's what I've come up with. Check out 'p8' everthing else is the way my Carter U12 is set up now.
LKL LKV LKR p0 p1 p2 p3 p4 p5 p6 p7 p8 RKL RKR
F# ++G#
D# -D +E +E
G# +A
E +F ++F# -Eb --D -Eb
B -Bb --A ++C# ++C# ++C#
G# --F# +A ++A#
F# -F --E ++G#
E +F ++F# --D -Eb
B -Bb +++D --A ++C# +C
G# +A
E +F -Eb +F
B ---G# ++C#
Please give me feedback. Additional changes, problems, redundancies? Maybe an F# change somewhere? I've never played a 7th tuning. I know b0b has thought through this extensively, and I've read his article.
I know the best thing would be to get the parts and try it out, but I'm just thinking out loud at this point.
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Ben
Zum D10, Carter U12
Twin, NV400, PODxt, G&L Guitars, etc, etc.
[This message was edited by Ben Slaughter on 17 June 2005 at 04:51 PM.] |
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Ben Slaughter
From:
Madera, California
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Posted 20 Jun 2005 9:10 am
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What if, on your RKR or my LKR, which gives us the two D notes, you lowered your middle F# to E??
That would give us a big strummable 7th. The question then is how much do you need that middle F# when you have that "D Lever" engaged? How does that work with both your LKR and RKR engaged?
[This message was edited by Ben Slaughter on 20 June 2005 at 10:12 AM.] |
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 20 Jun 2005 9:39 am
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Originally I had the 7th string tuned to E, but I really missed the F#. I decided to lower it to E on LKR whenever I wanted to strum. Often I would use RKR to get the E7th at the same time.
But the coolest thing was accidental. I discover that I had accidentally re-created Paul Franklin's LKV change on string 7. If I used P1 to get the G# note, I could release it as I pushed LKR for that long G# to E change.
Turned a few heads in the band the first time I used it! 
I wouldn't gang the F# lower to the D lower because I'd lose the 9th chord, which I use all the time.
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 Bobby Lee - email: quasar@b0b.com - gigs - CDs, Open Hearts
Williams D-12 E9, C6add9, Sierra Olympic S-12 (F Diatonic)
Sierra Laptop S-8 (E6add9), Fender Stringmaster D-8 (E13, C6 or A6) |
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Dean Parks
From:
Sherman Oaks, California, USA
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Posted 20 Jun 2005 10:09 am
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Ben-
Let me chime in to say that the D with F#, adding pedals A and B, provides a 2-frets-up maj7(9) (with an AB movement of the maj7th to 6th, and 5th to b5th), which is a good thing to keep.
-dean- [This message was edited by Dean Parks on 20 June 2005 at 11:10 AM.] |
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Ben Slaughter
From:
Madera, California
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Posted 27 Jun 2005 10:06 am
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| Ok, so now, what I'm thinking is to lower that middle F#, and in conjunction with my existing LKR, I have the strumable E7. Question is, where to put that change. I'm thinking a 6th KL, but having never played a guitar with 6 KLs, I don't know where to put it. I'm not to hip on a RKV and it can't be a 2nd LKL. So it's either a 2nd LKR, a 2nd LKV, or its on the right knee. Any other ideas?? |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 27 Jun 2005 11:15 am
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| With the AB pedals down, I can hit the LKV and change the 1st and 7th strings to G, the 7th of the A chord. That is strummable on my uni (I raise the 10th string to A on the B pedal), but lacks the low root. However, some uni players lower the 12th string to A on the B pedal. Not the same thing as the E7 you are looking for, but it is a strummable 7th chord. Also, remember that in B6 mode, the B pedal changes that to B7. But the E on the 11th string keeps that from being strummable on the bottom. |
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