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Topic: String and pedal problem |
Daniel Leslie
From: London, England
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Posted 28 Apr 2005 8:32 am
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Hi, I recently took down and set up my Emmons Black Rock.
I just broke the 3rd and 5th string at almost the same time. Not unusual I know but the pedals were feeling weird and I think that was the problem. The C pedal is fine but the A and B have much more tension in them than they did before I took it down.
Also the A pedal is slightly higher than the B pedal which it wasnt before which makes it harder to press and release them properly without playing out of tune.
Any ideas on how what the problem is?
Thanks.
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CrowBear Schmitt
From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 28 Apr 2005 12:52 pm
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i could be way off Daniel, did the end (or ball) of your broken strings fall into the changer ?
when strings break, you wanna make sure that the end piece gets out clear & not stuck in the changer |
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Larry Strawn
From: Golden Valley, Arizona, R.I.P.
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Posted 28 Apr 2005 3:21 pm
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Daniel,,
CrowBear is probably right about the string end caught in the changer,, it'll do it every time!!
I allways set my A pedal just a tad higher than B,C, makes it easier to work without accidentily getting on my B pedal..
as the night wears on, I some times get a little lazy,, lol..
Larry
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Emmons S/D-10, 3/4, Sessions 400 Ltd. Home Grown E/F Rack
"ROCKIN COUNTRY"
[This message was edited by Larry Strawn on 28 April 2005 at 04:23 PM.] |
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Ricky Davis
From: Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 28 Apr 2005 6:45 pm
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I'm not understanding what you mean "Took it down"> what did you do?
As I spoke before many times(maybe someone can find them threads??)about the mechanism tension will add to string breakage. Obviously; you added some tension in the mechanics of the A and B pedals and although your able to raise the strings; somehow you've added friction/tension to do it and that will break strings. There are certain places on the pullers(bell cranks) and the positions on the fingers; that the rods should go; to play as easy as possible, without adding tension to the pull. The rods should be free moving and not binding/rubbing up against anything and in a straight line and not angled up or down too much.
Position of where the pedal rods hook, to pull the crossbars are important too; in making for an easy pull. And of course without the rods even on; the crossbars need to be free moving with ease.
Ricky[This message was edited by Ricky Davis on 28 April 2005 at 07:47 PM.] |
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Daniel Leslie
From: London, England
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Posted 29 Apr 2005 2:40 am
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Thanks guys.
Ricky, I just meant I dissassemlbed it when it was taking it to someones house then put it back up.
I don't mind the string breakage it's just the pedal stiffness that makes it uncomfortable to play. I found the Emmons set-up guide for push-pulls a few threads below so I'll see if I can manage that and hope it fixes the problem. |
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Tony Prior
From: Charlotte NC
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Posted 29 Apr 2005 4:15 am
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and do be sure to wrap the 3rd string and the 5th string with 5 to 7 wraps at the key head .
These are the two naughty boys on our E9th Instrument and should be treated differently than the rest of the 10 string gang..or whatever gang they are a member of...
t[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 29 April 2005 at 05:16 AM.] |
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Ricky Davis
From: Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 29 Apr 2005 12:44 pm
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Oh Sorry Daniel; I also didn't know a Black Rock is a Push-Pull Emmons> so forget what I said about all the mechanical stuff; as that applies more to a All-pull; and I haven't a clue on the set up for a Push-pull.....but like Tony said: yes indeed wrap at least 5 wraps if not 7 or 8.
Ricky |
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