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Andre Dardeau

 

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Louisiana, USA
Post  Posted 2 May 2017 4:05 pm    
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First off, this is my first post so hi to everybody.

I just purchased a (I think) student model Emmons push pull steel. I didn't believe everything I read about if you are going to play steel guitar you need to learn to work on them. A few weeks, a copy of Methodology and Practice, and some patience and I've pulled the whole thing apart and gotten it working well. The only problem is that the two knee levers were set up to do some strange things and I would prefer them to be normal E and F levers.

In reconfiguring everything I had all the parts I need to get everything except one raise to F. I have plenty of collars and bell cranks, I just need one rod with the hardened steel hook to attach it to the changer. Anybody know where I can get one short of just waiting on eBay?

The only other issue I have had is that the legs wobble a little, any tips on getting that sorted out?
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Jack Hanson


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San Luis Valley, USA
Post  Posted 2 May 2017 4:44 pm     Re: Looking for parts for an Emmons push pull
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Andre Dardeau wrote:
A few weeks, a copy of Methodology and Practice, and some patience and I've pulled the whole thing apart and gotten it working well.

Good for you!

Welcome. You've come to the right place. Someone here will have the part you're looking for, tell you how to get one, or tell you how to fabricate one yourself.
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Bob Guichard

 

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Central Texas, USA
Post  Posted 2 May 2017 5:59 pm     emmons parts
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Andre
The rods are stainless steel welding rod that can be purchased from a welding supply company. The hooks can be bent from .040 music wire that can be purchased at Hobby Lobby or similar outlet.
Hope this helps.
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Andre Dardeau

 

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Louisiana, USA
Post  Posted 3 May 2017 3:13 am    
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Any tricks for drilling out the welding rod to accept the hook? That seems like trouble without a drill press.
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Bob Guichard

 

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Central Texas, USA
Post  Posted 3 May 2017 4:16 am    
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It is difficult without a drill press. The rods come with a flat stamped on each end. You need to drill thru the flat and grind the excess off. Do not force the bit and use lubricant. That small a drill bit is fragile and will break easily.
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Bob Guichard

 

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Central Texas, USA
Post  Posted 3 May 2017 4:45 am    
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I will add that an attempt to flatted the stainless rod will usually work harden the material to the point where drilling is impossible
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Mike Scaggs


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Nashville, TN
Post  Posted 3 May 2017 4:48 am     .
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I am trying to sort this same issue out myself and I do have a nice drill press. I guess one of us needs to make a hydraulic punch press and start selling these dang rods LOL
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 3 May 2017 8:52 am    
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I usually flatten the ends of the rods with a hammer and then drill the holes.
If that doesn't work, get a bigger hammer. Whoa!
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Bob Guichard

 

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Post  Posted 3 May 2017 9:28 am    
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Erv
Hammering the rod flat didnt harden the steel. It did when I hammered stainless rod
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 3 May 2017 9:56 am    
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Get a carbide drill bit, it worked for me.
As far as the wire that connects to the end of the rod and the changer, those flags that are put out to mark water, gas lines and so on, the wire they use is just the right size. Very Happy
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Andre Dardeau

 

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Louisiana, USA
Post  Posted 3 May 2017 2:32 pm    
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Thanks for the responses, I'm hot on the trail of one. Any suggestions about the legs, other than just buying a new set?
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Chris Lucker

 

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Los Angeles, California USA
Post  Posted 3 May 2017 2:41 pm    
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Are your legs wobbly because:

The socket is loose in the leg tube? Dismantle leg, pop out socket and glue back with Pliobond or ferrule cement or golf shaft epoxy or epoxy.

Because the threads in the socket are bad? New socket or new leg section or new leg. Not likely unless the threads have been damaged by getting banged or dropped.

Because the female threads in the endplate are bad? Try your legs in a different order and see if each socket has a best mate. There are guys where who have used replacement threads, maybe they can help.
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