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GaryL

 

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Post  Posted 3 Apr 2017 6:20 pm    
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I was wondering if anyone knows how to tune the second string D# to C# stop on and old 3-hole bell crank MSA Super Sustain single-neck E9th guitar?
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 3 Apr 2017 6:37 pm    
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Is there a half-stop on the underside?
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 3 Apr 2017 6:39 pm    
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Look for one of these: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nZoVqgtGk3o
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GaryL

 

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Post  Posted 4 Apr 2017 10:35 am    
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Thanks, Lane. The stop shown in the video is similar to that on my old Sho-Bud. A buddy and I are working on his old MSA and it is a bit different in that the spring adjustment is on the endplate. You have pretty much answered my question!
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 7 Apr 2017 12:10 pm    
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That's odd. MSA half-stops are what I showed. But whatever works!
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Bobby Burns

 

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Post  Posted 7 Apr 2017 12:22 pm    
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It's been a while since I had an MSA, but if I remember right, mine worked like Lane's video, except the tuner was at the end plate instead of underneath the guitar. It should adjust the tuning of the half stop, and not the spring tension at the end plate.
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GaryL

 

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Post  Posted 8 Apr 2017 12:53 am    
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It is possible that others have modified the changer through the years, or replaced some parts incorrectly. I appreciate everyone's input.
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Bill Moore


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Post  Posted 8 Apr 2017 4:54 am    
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On MSA's, or any guitar with round cross shafts, you can adjust the half stop by rotating the position of the bellcranks on the shaft. Position the 2nd string bellcrank first, make sure it will lower all the way to C#. Loosen the 9th string bellcrank and move it some so that when you activate the lever, the one for string 2 begins lowering that string before the 9th string begins to lower. Then there is some trial and error adjusting to get them both in the right relative position. Pretty foolproof, actually.
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GaryL

 

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Post  Posted 9 Apr 2017 3:45 pm    
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Bill, looking at the mechanism, that is the conclusion that I reached, Thanks for the verification.
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