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Tom Quinn


Post  Posted 3 Mar 2017 9:27 am    
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I sold my great D-10 Tuesday and now have to figure out how to make the one collecting dust in my back room sound at least decent if not great. It's all I have and I have a bunch of $$$$$ in it.

Anyone have some original parts from Emmons? I'd even consider buying a whole changer if it was available. But it must be absolute original. Dirty, grimy, that's fine.

I especially need the springs that hold the levers where the hook ends of the rods attach -- sorry for the vague description. The ones on the guitar are new and shiny but they are so stiff, it is actually painful to push down on the levers to insert the hook end.

I also need some rollers for the bridge because they are messed up -- uneven (causing the strings to not be on the same level) to the point that the guitar won't play worth beans below the fifth fret.

The main thing is to get this guitar some tone and sustain because as it stands it is absolutely dead sounding. Never in my life thought I'd say that about a push pull.

If you have some parts, please contact me privately here. Thanks!
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Larry Baker

 

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Post  Posted 3 Mar 2017 3:34 pm    
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Try Jerry Roller in Arkansas. He is a member on here and a big Emmons man.
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Larry Behm


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Post  Posted 5 Mar 2017 8:50 am    
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Lynn Stafford and Billy Knowles also come to mind.
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richard burton


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Post  Posted 5 Mar 2017 10:46 am    
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Tom,
Sometimes the screws that hold the neck to the body on a push-pull are tightened so much that the 'liveliness' of the instrument is lost.
Try slackening the screws off, then just tighten them up 'snug', and see if the tone improves.

It worked a treat on my push-pull Very Happy
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Tom Quinn


Post  Posted 5 Mar 2017 12:01 pm    
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Thanks Richard. I'm going to try a few thing but if they don't work, I'll get a few friends with camera-equipped smart phones, take the guitar to the Noyo Harbor bridge and toss it over while they film it. That is how much I hate this thing. Absolute garbage guitar...
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Post  Posted 5 Mar 2017 5:21 pm    
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Tom
I have some original pedal crank return springs, but they may not help. Some pedals, such as 7 and 8, are hard to push with your fingers -- especially in the early guitars with shorter cranks (64s). Try pushing the cranks with the springs disengaged. I bet they will still be hard. It is a leverage thing with how the guitar was chosen to be set up. I use the flat end of my steel slide to depress the pedal cranks. Easy and pain free.
Regarding your problem with the "bridge rollers," do you mean nut rollers? Could you have gauged rollers that are placed in the slots for the incorrect strings? Or are your changer fingers shot?
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Tom Quinn


Post  Posted 5 Mar 2017 5:43 pm    
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Chris, it is the nut rollers. They look like they are worn out or something -- the ones in the middle are higher than the others so the strings don't lie on a flat plane.

There is a deeper problem with this guitar and I don't know if it is in the changer or what. The guitar has no sustain and above the 15th fret it absolutely dies within seconds of picking a string. Acoustically, the instrument sounds like there is a big wool blanket on it.

I have another Emmons pickup that came with it (17.5 K) and I'll put that in, change the strings, loosen up the screws holding the guitar together and re-tighten it to a lower torque value (heard that might help). It's a pretty guitar but compared to the one I just sold, well...
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Chris Lucker

 

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Post  Posted 5 Mar 2017 8:02 pm    
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Someone put the guitar together in a restoration that does not understand that an Emmons is not a sho bud.
An Emmons is not a cabinet to which you attach parts. It cannot be, because it has a cabinet that is so much thinner You better know what role every part-- even the control panel, means to the guitar, or bad results occur.
There are lots of "Emmons experts" with impressive sets of screwdrivers, but zero Emmons-specific knowledge. Unfortunate for those who sent guitars to unqualified repair people.
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Jerry Roller


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Post  Posted 5 Mar 2017 10:01 pm    
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Tom, would the guitar be for sale?
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Tom Quinn


Post  Posted 6 Mar 2017 10:02 am    
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I could not in good conscience sell it to anyone...
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Post  Posted 6 Mar 2017 4:54 pm    
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Tom, you just make me want to buy it even more-so.
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